Repost : Everything hinges on visible baptism of desire : correct the premise and change the Council
JULY 6, 2017
Everything hinges on visible baptism of desire : correct the premise and change the Council
Change the premise and change the Council's interpretation with one stroke.
The changes Cardinal Richard Cushing, the Jesuits and others made in Vatican Council II were based on the Fr. Leonard Feeney case ; the use of the false premise.For some 19 years they did not lift the excommunication of Fr.Leonard Feeney. Since it would expose all their intrigues before and during Vatican Council II. His supporters would say that the excommunication was lifted without the priest in Boston having to recant. So there is no change in the dogmatic teaching on exclusive salvation in the Church.So they maintained the excommunication and hid the missing link.
Now that we have found the missing link we can undo all the damage done by the ecclesiastics of that time.
We need one simple action to make the Council traditional again.One simple action.It is - correct the premise.
It can be compared to a dark room when the light is switched on.The darkness all goes at once. One simple action.Press the light switch.
It can be compared to watering the root of the tree. One simple action and the whole tree is nourished. We do not have to water the leaves and branches separately.
Similarly by changing the invisible cases are visible premise to simply invisible cases are just invisible - we water the whole tree of Vatican Council II, so to speak, all at once.We do not have to touch up Lumen Gentium or re-write Gaudium et Spes.
We have to be aware that LG 16 refers to an invisible case and so it cannot be an explicit exception to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS). The dogma EENS is central to the Vatican Council II interpretation.For there to be an exception to EENS an objective case is needed. An invisible person cannot be an exception to all needing to be members of the Church for salvation. A person who does not exist cannot be an example of salvation outside the Church in 2017.And for an exception to be an exception the person has to be present in 2017.So someone who allegedly went to Heaven without the baptism of water in the Catholic Church some 500 years back cannot be an exception to EENS in 2017.
So now we have a choice. We can use the irrational premise or discard it.We can assume LG 16, LG 8, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc refer to physically visible people or we can say that they are invisible cases in 2017.Either way the conclusion with reference to EENS is different.
So when your premise is : invisible cases of LG 16, LG 8 etc are not exceptions to EENS, since they are invisible in 2017, there is no rupture with EENS in Vatican Council II, we have a traditional Council.Vatican Council II is not a break with the Syllabus of Errors and the rest of Tradition.
So with one action we have changed Vatican Council II as it is being interpreted by just about every body today.
One simple action.
It can be compared to a magnet. When we change the polarity of a magnet all the iron filings placed before it move.They change their position.Similarly by changing the premise, one simple action, all the irrationality in Vatican Council II is moved out.
Try it for yourself. Experiment. Picture LG 16, LG 8, UR 3 etc as referring to unknown persons , unknowable persons.Or picture them as being known people saved outside the church. What is your conclusion in both cases with reference to EENS?
When we choose a rational premise not only does Vatican Council II change but the Council is in harmony with other magisterial documents.
When a tuning fork is struck other tuning forks at the same frequency also vibrate.So also when we choose a rational premise there is harmony with other magisterial documents interpreted with the same rational premise. Vatican Council II( without the irrational premise) is in harmony with the Catechisms of the Catholic Church (interpreted without the irrational premise).
Without the irrational premise the Holy Mass offered today, in Italian , Latin or Greek, has the same ecclesiology of the Tridentine Rite Mass of the 16th century.The Nicene Creed is simple and the same as the understanding over the centuries.Invisible for us baptism of desire and blood and being saved in invincible ignorance are not exceptions to the old ecclesiology or to Feeneyite EENS.They do not make Vatican Council II a rupture with the past.
One small change and all this good is achieved. One simple action and the Council returns to Tradition.-Lionel Andrades
JULY 6, 2017
Everything hangs on invisible for us baptism of desire : Vatican Council II changes