While at the same seminary Ralph Martin, Robert Fastiggi and Phillip Blosser agree- that BOD,BOB and I.I refer only to invisible people in 2017. They are theoretical speculation, possibilities, hypothetical cases only.
Personally when asked they will say the obvious that there are no known cases of BOD, BOB or I.I in 2017. However when they teach students at the seminary they maintain that there are exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS). There are people saved outside the Church without the baptism of water.They are saved with the baptism of desire, baptism of blood and in invincible ignorance.
Similarly if you ask Dr.Joseph Shaw if BOD, BOB and I.I refer to invisible cases in 2017 he would agree. However this teacher of philosophy at Oxford University will not affirm the strict interpretation of the dogma EENS since for him, and the English bishops,BOD, BOB and I.I refer to known persons saved outside the Church.
AUGUST 5, 2017
JULY 29, 2017