Wednesday, April 5, 2017

The non separation of Church and State theologically depends on Feeneyite Vatican Council II and EENS


Photo published for Limond Toussaint dans les habits de ministre de la Culture et de la Communication
Father Limond Toussaint, a priest of the Diocese of Jacmel, Haiti, has become the new minister of Culture and Communication of his country, and, as a consequence, was suspended as a priest because clerics are not allowed to assume public office. In the past, Salesian Father Jean-Bertrand Aristide became the president of Haiti and later left the priesthood according to Gloria Tv.
There is no separation of Church and State but 'the false church' maintains this separation.There is no separation of Church and State since outside the Church there is no salvation and so all need to enter the Catholic Church to avoid the fires of Hell.So the priority was that all political and social legislation have Jesus as he is known in the Catholic Church, as their center.There could be no separation of Church  and State based on the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus(Feeneyite).
Even today Vatican Council II  and extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS) can be interpreted with Feeneyism and the ecclesiology of the Church will be that of the past.
But in 1965 the theologians interpreted Vatican Council II and EENS with Cushingism,when they had a choice.They created a new theology.With this new theology they inferred that there was known salvation outside the Church. So since the dogma EENS and Vatican Council II was interpreted with Cushingism  everyone did not need to enter the Church for salvation.The teachings on the separation of Church and State were discarded.
Now the false church within the Catholic Church under instructions from the Left, which belongs to Satan, strictly enforces the separation of Church and State, as if this is a new Revelation in the Church.In the past the popes were against usury. They  have changed that. The popes were against the Jewish Left, the kabbalists, talmudis and money changers.They are no more opposed.
When Catholics once again affirm EENS (Feeneyite) without EENS (Cushingite) and replace Vatican Council II(Cushingite) with Vatican Council II(Feeneyite) we then have the old ecclesiology upon which was based the non separation of Church and State.
There are other good implications. With Vatican Council II and EENS (Feeneyite) the new ecumenism is meaningless. Since now it means all Christians need to enter the Church with Catholic faith(Ad Gentes 7, Vatican Council II).Also there are no exceptions mentioned in Vatican Council II to the dogma EENS  (Feeneyite).Inter religious dialogue  would be part of Mission since all non Christians with no known exception would be oriented to Hell.This would be the old teaching  according to the old ecclesiology of the Church, not contradicted by Vatican Council II(Feeneyite).
Then Father Limond Toussaint, a priest of the Diocese of Jacmel, Haiti, could enter politics with the permission of his bishop.There  could be Catholic political parties which affirm the dogma EENS and Vatican Council II (EENS).They could call for a separation of secularism  and State. Since when there is a separation of Church and State then the values in society are not  those of God but of Satan.
-Lionel Andrades

 

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Intervista a Don Minutella
https://gloria.tv/video/X2gz3chqViMe3gwjfAWeLUfn9

At the Byzantine Greek Mass, the Latin and Syro Malabar Rite and the Novus Ordo Mass they all assume invisible cases of the baptism of desire are visible exceptions to all needing to be incorporated into the Church

Pope Francis offers way to recognize marriages by traditionalist group

Charles Collins
April 4, 2017

There is no 'doctrinal roadblock' with Vatican Council II (Feeneyite).
Doctrinally Vatican Council II ( Feeneyite) is not a rupture with Tradition.So Vatican Council II is no more an issue.
Pope Francis interprets Vatican Council II with Cushingism.It is a rupture with traditional doctrine including extra ecclesiam nulla salus ( Feeneyite). If Pope Francis would interpret Vatican Council II and extra ecclesiam nulla salus without the irrational premise and conclusion, then pre-Vatican Council and post Vatican Council doctrine would be in harmony. 
Doctrine is no more an issue for those who discern.
Cardinal Muller has to clarify that there can be two interpretations of Vatican Council II, Feeneyism and Cushingism.
Cushingism is magisterial and official and it contradicts the Principle of Non Contraduction. It has to be discarded by all.
The new ecumenism is based on Vatican Council II ( Cushingite). With Vatican Council II ( Feeneyite), the ecclesiocentrism of the past does not change. So there can only be an ecumenism of return.
 All  interpret Vatican Council II with Cushingism. In this sense all have the new faith, with the new theology and new doctrines on salvation.Since the traditionalists only know about Vatican Council II(Cushingite) they do not  harmonize Tradition with Vatican Council II ( Feeneyite).And Crux is  not going to tell them about this. t
Crux they have to maintain the secret for ideological reasons.Those who discern there could  be breathing hard.
 With Vatican Council II( Feeneyite) we are back to the old ecclesiology of the Church.So the old exclusivist ecclesiology would be the same at all Rites. Presently with Vatican Council II ( Cushingite) there is no more an exclusivist ecclesiology in the Church at any Rite.
 At the Byzantine Greek Mass, the Latin and Syro Malabar Rite and the Novus Ordo Mass they all assume invisible cases of the baptism of desire are visible exceptions to all needing to be incorporated into the Church as members for salvation.So LG 16, LG 14 etc would be an explicit rupture with the dogmaextra ecclesiam nulla salus( Feeneyite) at any Mass.There is a new doctrine created with a false theology which the SSPX is correctly rejecting.
 Vatican Council II ( Feeneyite) is in harmony with the old ecclesiology of the Church which affirmed outside the Church there is no salvation. Upon this dogma on exclusive salvation in the Catholic Church, and all needing to be members,that the teaching on the Social Reign of Christ the King over all political legislation was based. So there was no separation of Church and State.
Now with official Vatican Council II ( Cushingism) there is allegedly known salvation outside the Church so the dogma has been set aside. There is no need for every one to be Catholic for salvation.There  is no need for the State to politically be Catholic with a Catholic constitution.
When Catholics accept Vatican Council II ( Feeneyite) the liberals and pro-Masons like Crux will rebel .They are expected to rebel like the traditionalists are rebelling today against Vatican Council II( Cushingite).-Lionel Andrades

https://cruxnow.com/vatican/2017/04/04/pope-francis-offers-way-recognize-marriages-traditionalist-group/

At Crux they are breathing hard.No 'doctrinal roadblock' with Vatican Council II (Feeneyite).The Council II is no more an issue


From Fr.John Zuhlsdorf's blog.


Pope Francis offers way to recognize marriages by traditionalist group(Crux)
Pope Francis has made another concession to the traditionalist Society of St. Pius X (SSPX),in an attempt to bring the group into full communion with the Church.
The latest olive branch was extended on Tuesday, when a method was announced for their marriages to be considered valid in the Church.
Currently, priests of the society lack the necessary permissions to conduct Catholic weddings, so the marriages in their chapels are not considered valid by Church authorities.
Under the new system – outlined in a letter by Cardinal Gerhard Müller, the head of the Vatican’s doctrine office, who also serves the President of the Commission which deals with the SSPX [the Pont. Comm. “Ecclesia Dei“] – a local bishop would have a priest of his diocese attend the wedding at the SSPX chapel, and receive the consent of the parties, while the SSPX priest celebrates the wedding liturgy according to the traditional rite.
Müller also said if no priest of the diocese was available, then the bishop could give the necessary faculties to the SSPX priest to receive the consent from the parties, and have him send the necessary paperwork to the diocese.

[… some blah blah…]
Francis seems to be trying to sidestep this doctrinal roadblock by looking directly at the pastoral situations, with this latest letter citing the pope’s concern over “any uneasiness of conscience on the part of the faithful who adhere to the Society of St. Pius X as well as any uncertainty regarding the validity of the sacrament of marriage may be alleviated.”
(Lionel: There is no 'doctrinal roadblock' with Vatican Council II (Feeneyite).
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Perhaps by increasing contact between the local bishops and local SSPX congregations – which often have no communication at all – the pope is hoping to break down some of the psychological and cultural obstacles to unity.

However, the SSPX does not think it needs these permissions[great guys, but they are wrong] and a visit to any of their websites will give you pages and pages of explanations of why their priests have all the faculties necessary to perform their ministry.
(Lionel: Doctrinally Vatican Council II ( Feeneyite) is not a rupture with Tradition.So Vatican Council II is no more an issue.)
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And although Francis is known as a “pope of gestures,” these gestures on priestly faculties are probably not the ones the rank-and-file traditionalists want to see him make, and that takes the pope back to the doctrinal roadblock he has been trying to circumvent.
Lionel: Pope Francis interprets Vatican Council II with Cushingism.It is a rupture with traditional doctrine including extra ecclesiam nulla salus ( Feeneyite). If Pope Francis would interpret Vatican Council II and extra ecclesiam nulla salus without the irrational premise and conclusion, then pre-Vatican Council and post Vatican Council doctrine would be in harmony. 
Doctrine is no more an issue for those who discern.
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In an interview earlier this year, Fellay said “the main obstacle is the degree of obligation of adherence to the Second Vatican Council,”
Lionel: Cardinal Muller has to clarify that there can be two interpretations of Vatican Council II, Feeneyism and Cushingism.Cushingism is magisterial and official and it contradicts the Principle of Non Contraduction. It has to be discarded by all.
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 in particular mentioning the SSPX “will not yield” on questions such as “the way in which ecumenism is practiced[ehem… that’s not a doctrinal problem] 
Lionel: The new ecumenism is based on Vatican Council II ( Cushingite). With Vatican Council II ( Feeneyite), the ecclesiocentrism of the past does not change. So there can only be an ecumenism of return.
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including statements very dangerous for the faith,
Lionel: Which 'faith' ? Faith with Vatican Council Cushngite or Feeneyite?
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 that make you think all have the same faith;
Lionel. All are interpreting Vatican Council II ( Cushingite). In this sense all have the new faith, with the new theology and new doctrines on salvation.However since the traditionalists only know about Vatican Council II(Cushingite) they do not  harmonize Tradition with Vatican Council II ( Feeneyite).And Cruzis not going to tell them about this. It has to maintain the secret for ideological reasons.Meanwhile they could be breathing hard hoping this spectre will go away.
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 the liturgical question or the relationship between the Church and the State.” [i.e., religious liberty]
Lionel: With Vatican Council II( Feeneyite) we are back to the old ecclesiology of the Church.So the old exclusivist ecclesiology would be the same at all Rites. Presently with Vatican Council II ( Cushingite) there is no more an exclusivist ecclesiology in the Church at any Rite. At the Byzantine Greek Mass, the Latin and Syro Malabar Rite and the Novus Ordo Mass they all assume invisible cases of the baptism of desire are visible exceptions to all needing to be incorporated into the Church as members for salvation.So LG 16, LG 14 etc would be an explicit rupture with the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus( Feeneyite) at any Mass.There is a new doctrine created with a false theology which the SSPX is correctly rejecting.
 Vatican Council II ( Feeneyite) is in harmony with the old ecclesiology of the Church which affirmed outside the Church there is no salvation. Upon this dogma on exclusive salvation in the Catholic Church, and all needing to be members,, that the teaching on the Social Reign of Christ the King over all political legislation was based. So there was no separation of Church and State.
Now with official Vatican Council II ( Cushingism) there is allegedly known salvation outside the Church so the dogma has been set aside. There is no need for every one to be Catholic for salvation.So there is no need for the State to politically be Catholic with a Catholic constitution.
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Those are questions which it is doubtful this pope will answer in a way the traditionalists will accept, even if they don’t have to worry about the validity of their marriages.
Lionel: When Catholics accept Vatican Council II ( Feeneyite) the liberals and pro-Masons like Crux will rebel .They are expected to rebel like the traditionalists are rebelling today against Vatican Council II( Cushingite).
  [Grrrr…. at the end, the writer had to piddle on future.  The solution isn’t that difficult: because the issues that the SSPX has trouble with are, in fact, fraught with difficulties, simply allow that people have freedom to disagree about what they mean.]

-Lionel Andrades

http://wdtprs.com/blog/2017/04/pope-francis-provides-for-valid-sspx-marriages/

Fr.Giovanni Cavalcoli O.P affirms the same false theology : he uses a false premise to interpret Vatican Council II

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Don Alessandro M. Minutella  refers to  'the false church' within the Catholic Church; a false theology, a false interpretation of Vatican Council II. Our Lady also mentions this to the Italian priest Father Stefano Gobbi of the Marian Movement of Priests.
Image result for Photos of Don Giovanni Cavalcoli o.pFr.Giovanni Cavalcoli o.p  uses a false premise in the interpretation of Vatican Council II and so the conclusion is not traditional.Instead it is heretical.I have told this to him but he will not  make the correction. He will not admit that he is wrong even when it is something obvious.
He will not admit the error since this heretical teaching is magisterial and it supported by his Dominican Superiors. This is part of 'the false church' which Father Alessandro M. Minutella refers to.
It is compulsory for Fr.Cavalcoli and Fr.Ariel Levi, at their website Isola da Patmos, to accept this.Since otherwise they too could be suspended as was Fr.Alessandro M.Minutella.
Image result for Photos of vescovo Corrado Lorefice sul biciImage result for Photos of vescovo Corrado Lorefice sul biciImage result for Photos of vescovo Corrado Lorefice sul biciThis is the new theology of Bishop Corrado Lorefice at Palermo, who has suspended Fr.Alessandro Minutella.His new theology is based on the false premise.
Image result for Photo Don ariel S.LeviThis is the New Theology which Fr.Ariel Levi refers to in his criticism of Fr.Alessandro Minutella in an article on Levi and Cavalcoli's  website.The foundation of the new theology is assuming what is invisible is visible.It assumes the invisible baptism of desire is visible. Then it infers that there are explicit exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.How can someone unknown and not seen physically be an exception to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus, Fr.Cavalcoli and Fr.Ariel?
The New Theology is the False Theology.
-Lionel Andrades
 
 

 
 
April 5, 2017

La stessa falsa Nuova Teologia afferma Don Cavalcoli O.P lui utilizza una falsa premessa nell'interpretazione del Concilio Vaticano II

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/04/la-stessa-falsa-nuova-teologia-afferma.html

La stessa falsa Nuova Teologia afferma Don Cavalcoli O.P lui utilizza una falsa premessa nell'interpretazione del Concilio Vaticano II

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Don Alessandro M. Minutella ha  riferisce alla falsa chiesa dientro la Chiesa Cattolica, una  falsa teologia,una falsa interpretazione del Concilio Vaticano II . La Madonna  anche dice questo in sue locuzioni al sacerdote italiano Don Stefano Gobbi di il Movimento sacerdotale mariano.
La stessa falsa Nuova Teologia afferma Don Cavalcoli O.P.Lui  utilizza una falsa premessa nell'interpretazione del Concilio Vaticano II e quindi la sua conclusione è non tradizionale ed eretica.
Image result for Photos of Don Giovanni Cavalcoli o.pDico questo a lui.Ma lui non farà la correzione.Neanche ammettere che lui era sbagliato anche quando e una cosa ovvio. Lui non ammettere questo perché questo e  l'insegnamento eretica è magisteriale e sostenuta dai domenicani. Questo fa parte della falsa chiesa che don Alessandro M. Minutella si riferisce. E 'obbligatorio per Don Cavalcoli e Don Ariel Levi di accettarlo.O saranno anche sospesi come Fr.Minutella.
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Questa è la nuova teologia del vescovo Corrado Lorefice.

E basata su una falsa premessa.
Image result for Photo Don ariel S.LeviQuesta è la nuova teologia che Don Ariel Levi si riferisce a nella sua critica Fr.Alessandro Minutella.
La nuova teologia ha fondamento su assumendo cose invisibili sono visibili.
Assume il invisibile battesimo di desiderio è visble. Poi si deduce che ci sono esplicite eccezioni al dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.
Come si può un sconosciuto e non visto essere un'eccezione al dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus, padre Cavalcoli,padre Ariel ?
-Lionel Andrades

 

 

 

 
 
 

 


NOVEMBER 27, 2016


Scoperto la premessa esatto utilizzato da p. Rahner e il cardinale Ratzinger. Senza questa premessa il Concilio Vaticano II non è una rottura con il dogma Ecclesiam nulla salus e il Sillabo


E se non ci sono casi oggettivi come ci può essere un'eccezione?

NOVEMBER 27, 2016


Questa è la nuova teologia

NOVEMBER 27, 2016


Se la mia premessa è che il battesimo di desiderio si riferisce ad un caso visibile poi con questa premessa irrazionale mi metterò una conclusione non tradizionale. Il magistero dal 1949 sta usando questo premise.E irrazionali: Io no lo fanno

 NOVEMBER 27, 2016


Allora questo errore e incorporato nel Concilio Vaticano II, quando si menziona il battesimo di desiderio e di essere salvato nell'ignoranza invincibile

NOVEMBER 27, 2016


Sta dicendo che il battesimo di desiderio non è un'eccezione al dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus come era conosciuto nel 16 ° secolo? Questo era di posizione di Don Leonard Feeney

NOVEMBER 27, 2016


Come una cosa invisibile puoi diventa una eccezioine per il dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus come spiegato il Concilio di Firenze e Don Leonard Feeney,quando e invisibile sulla terra ?


 

NOVEMBER 27, 2016


Cosi un 'appartenenza invisibile' non contraddire il dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus come come era conosciuto nel 16 ° secolo per esempio

NOVEMBER 27, 2016


E' chiaro che il battesimo di desiderio è invisibile, perchè colui stesso che lo riceve, non sa di riceverlo

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/11/e-chiaro-che-il-battesimo-di-desiderio.html

NOVEMBER 27, 2016


Non possiamo sapere di qualunque cne ha ricevuto salvezza attraverso i mezzi extraordinari di salvezza.

NOVEMBER 27, 2016


Come si può sconosciuto e non visto essere un'eccezione al dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus, padre?

NOVEMBER 27, 2016


Cosi per me il battesimo di desiderio e una possibilita solo non e una caso di persone conosciuto nel 2016. Non e relevante per il dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus come una eccezione.


NOVEMBER 27, 2016


Il catecumeno è un caso ipotetico per noi. Se fosse esistito sarebbe stato noto solo a Dio.E fisicamente invisibile

NOVEMBER 27, 2016


Come una cosa invisibile puoi diventa una eccezione per il dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus come spiegato il Concilio di Firenze e Don Leonard Feeney,quando e invisibile sulla terra ?

NOVEMBER 26, 2016


E se non ci sono casi oggettivi come ci può essere un'eccezione?

NOVEMBER 27, 2016



NOVEMBER 26, 2016


Il concetto Rahnerian è che se c'è una persona salvata fuori della Chiesa poi c'è salvezza al di fuori della Chiesa. Quando c'è salvezza al di fuori della Chiesa, allora il dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus non esiste più.


 NOVEMBER 26, 2016


Il magistero dal 1949 sta usando questo premise.E irrazionali.Io non lo fanno.Penso che il Magistero e irrazionale.



Come si può un sconosciuto e non visto essere un'eccezione al dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus, padre? -1

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/11/come-si-puo-sconosciuto-e-non-visto.html

Quindi, questo errore è un errore nella Lettera 1949 e nel Concilio Vaticano II / This is an error in the Letter of the Holy Office 1949 and in Vatican Council II
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/11/quindi-questo-errore-e-un-errore-nella.html

November 28, 2016
IL CONCILIO VATICANO II DICE TUTTI I MUSULMANI, EBREI A ROMA, ITALIA STA ANDANDO AD INFERNO http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/11/il-concilio-vaticano-ii-dice-tutti-i.html


Come si può un sconosciuto e non visto essere un'eccezione al dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus, padre? -3
NOVEMBER 29, 2016
Per esempio tutti i musulmani in Italia nel 2016 hanno bisogno di entrare nella Chiesa cattolica con la fede e il battesimo e come lei dice non ci sono eccezioni?
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/11/per-esempio-tutti-i-musulmani-in-italia.html

NOVEMBER 29, 2016
Ecclesiologia è ancora esclusivista dopo il Concilio Vaticano II / Ecclesiology is still exclusivist after Vatican Council II /
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/11/ecclesiologia-e-ancora-esclusivista.html

NOVEMBER 29, 2016
I papi e il presente magistero stanno dicendo che ci sono eccezioni al dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus quando in realtà non possiamo conoscere nessuno eccezione/ The popes and the present magisterium are saying that there are exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus when in reality we cannot know of any exception

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/11/i-papi-e-il-presente-magistero-stanno.html   
        
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