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All salvation comes through the Catholic Church, and outside of Her there is no salvation.-Michael Voris 1
Lionel:
Now please tell me are you saying that all non Catholics in the world in 2018 are on the way to Hell, with no known exception, unless they enter the Catholic Church with faith and the baptism of water?
I am saying YES.
Michael Voris cannot also say Yes.
So in the Vortex on Do Non Catholics Go To Hell? he avoids the issue. He does not want to be called a Feeneyite.
He wants to affirm Cushingism as a theology as does the Left and the Archbishop of Detroit.
He does not say that the baptism of water and Catholic faith are the ordinary, normal means to salvation.
He does not say that unknown cases of the baptism of desire, invincible ignorance etc are not exceptions to the ordinary ways of salvation.
He plays it safe.
He calls a dogma defined by three Church Councils and supported by Vatican Council II(AG 7) a moot question.
This Vortex is full of errors.
We know that all non Catholics are on the way to Hell since the Church teaches this in the dogma EENS(Cantate Domino, Council of Florence 1441), Nicene Creed ( I believe in one baptism, the baptism of water and not three known baptisms), Athanasius Creed(Outside the Church there is no salvation), Catechism of Pius X and Council of Trent, Catechism of the Catholic Church 1257( the Church knows of no means to eternal beatitude other than the baptism of water) etc.
Michael says that we must go 'beyond the card carrying Catholic' concept of salvation. To be saved you need to be 'a card carrying member'.This is told to us by Jesus in John 3:5 and Mark 16:16.
Michael is unloading his irrational Cushingite theology on to us.
So for me all non Catholics go to Hell in 2018 and this is magisterial. It is magisterial according the Church documents interpreted without the Cushingite theology.
He says God is not bound to the Sacraments (CCC 846). Remember he is a Cushingite and so possibilities known only to God are relevant to the dogma EENS for him. This was the reasoning of Pope Benedict.Who among us can know when God will choose not be limited to the Sacraments? No one. But since cardinals Ratzinger and Schonborn are Cushingites they mention this theory in the Catechism(1257) as if it was relevant to EENS.
With this reasoning Vatican Council II becomes a rupture with EENS for Michael Voris and Pope Benedict. This is the basis for their hermeneutic of rupture with Tradition.Hypothetical cases like 'God is not limited to the Sacraments' are used to make Vatican Council II a rupture with the Syllabus of Errors.
So Voris cannot outright say that all non Catholics are on the way to Hell. He rejects the dogma EENS like the local Chancellor and the rest of the Church of Nice.
Does the good Protestant and father go to Hell ?
Yes.Since the Church teaches it in her magisterial documents interpreted with Feeneyite theology i.e without the irrational Cushingite premise.
The Protestant is outside the Church.
The Catholic who marries the Protestant is living in adultery.
Can you imagine Michael Voris affirming these magisterial documents with Feeneyite theology, as I do ? Can you see him directly saying that all non Catholic with no exceptions are ore on the way to Hell in 2018?
No.
Since for him outside the Church there is no salvation has exceptions. This is standard Cushingism.So he vaguely says all salvation comes from the Church.
He says that we cannot know with any particular certainty the disposition of any particular soul since that is in the realm of God.Then why mention it? What has this to do with the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus , how is it relevant ? Why is it mentioned with reference to all non Catholics going to Hell according to the teachings of the Church?
Why does he not mention the dogma EENS and say that we know that all non Catholics, including the good Protestant husband are on the way to Hell? This has been the teaching of the Holy Spirit over the centuries.
The ordinary means of salvation is faith and baptism in the Catholic Church and we cannot judge the disposition of any soul to assume he or she is an exception.
The dogma says all non Catholics are on the way to Hell and he has judged that there are known exceptions.So every one does not need to be a card carrying member of the Catholic Church for him.
Church Militant TV is now a big project and he has to be prudent to keep it safe and so he is as heretical as the rest at Detroit.He has to protect his reputation and use irrationality to change the traditional teachings of the Catholic Church.
-Lionel Andrades
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https://www.churchmilitant.com/video/episode/do-non-catholics-go-to-hell
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