eucharistandmission: Vatican in agreement : no denial from any religious community or organisation in the Catholic Church.They all agree with me

Sunday, March 25, 2018

Vatican in agreement : no denial from any religious community or organisation in the Catholic Church.They all agree with me

There is no denial from the Vatican or any religious community or organization, in the Catholic Church. They all agree with me.Since I am rational and traditional.There is no rupture with reason and the traditional faith.

1) They agree that Lumen Gentium 8 is not an exception to the exclusivist ecclesiology, the exclusivist understanding of salvation in the Catholic Church.

2)They agree that all Catholic religious communities and lay movements, all Catholics, can interpret Lumen Gentium 8 as not being an exception or relevant to Feeneyite extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS).

Vatican Council II can be interpreted in harmony with EENS as it was known to the missionaries and Magisterium of the 16th century.There is no rupture. Since there can be no known salvation outside the Church, Vatican Council II can also be interpreted in harmony with the Syllabus of Errors and an ecumenism of return.

Jesus died for all people but for salvation all need to be members of the Catholic Church (Dominus Iesus 20).The Catholic Church is the only Ark of Noah that saves in the Flood(CCC 845).Outside the Catholic Church there is no salvation and all need faith and baptism to avoid Hell ( Ad Gentes 7, Vatican Council II).This includes those who know about Jesus and the Church and do not enter (Lumen Gentium 14) and those who do not know in general and are not members of the Church with 'faith and baptism'(Ad Gentes 7).Since 'all' in general need faith and baptism for salvation(Ad Gentes 7).

OFFICIAL DOCUMENTS INTERPRETED RATIONALLY

This is the official teaching of the Catholic Church today interpreted rationally, without the false premise, without Cushingite philosophy and theology.Official documents of the Church are being affirmed and cited.

So it is not enough to say that salvation is open to all without mentioning the necessity of membership in the Catholic Church for salvation.

No small group of people can change this traditional teaching on the necessity of membership in the Catholic Church.They tried it in 1949 by suggesting invisible cases of the baptism of desire(BOD) were visible exceptions to Feeneyite EENS.

Again they tried in after Vatican Council II when LG 8, LG 14, LG 16 and other hypothetical cases were interpreted as being non hypothetical and objective examples of salvation outside the Church.

This is irrational but the ruse worked and so the strict interpretation of the dogma EENS was officially put aside.

It is now said that Fr. Leonard Feeney was excommunicated for not saying that invisible cases of people saved in invincible ignorance are visible exceptions to traditional EENS.How can unknown cases of BOD and I.I be visible exceptions to the traditional interpretation of the dogma EENS ? How can non existing people be relevant to the interpretation of EENS according to the popes and saints? Invisible people were visible!

ALL RELIGIOUS COMMUNITIES CAN AFFIRM FEENEYITE EENS

Now we know that all this was irrational, non traditional and false.So all religious communities can hold the strict interpretation of the dogma EENS, the Feeneyite version, without the common and official irrationality and falsehood.There are no known cases of BOB, I.I or the baptism of blood(BOB) known to us in real life. There are no BOD,BOB and I.I cases , with or without the baptism of water.None within or outside the Church.None in the past or the present.Possibilities are not known people in real life.No one physically saw a possibility in Heaven. To suggest possibilities in Heaven are known exceptions to the dogma EENS on earth, would violate the Principle of Non Contradiction.

CATHOLICS MUST REFUSE TO INTERPRET VATICAN COUNCIL II WITH THE LIE

Catholics must refuse to interpret Vatican Council II with the lie.There is nothing in the Council to contradict the Feeneyite 'rigorist' interpretation of the dogma EENS.

Mission must be based on knowing all non Catholics and non Christians, are on the way to Hell, unless they become members of the Catholic Church(Ad Gentes 7, Cantate Domino, Council of Florence 1441),Catechism of the Council of Trent( BOD refers to only a hypothetical case ),the Catechism of Pope Pius X ( I.I refers to an invisible case only) etc.

MAGISTERIAL DOCUMENTS WRITTEN WITH THE FALSE PREMISE

They must also be aware that the Catechism(1994), Redemptoris Missio,Dominus Iesus and other magisterial documents, were written with the false premise. We can still accept them and interpret them without the irrational premise.We must remember that invisible people are simply invisible and so are not exceptions to EENS.

We must be aware however that Cardinal Ratzinger assumed that invisible cases of BOD, BOB, I.I etc were invisible and known examples, of salvation outside the Church. This was false. He repeated the error in March 2016(Avvenire).Unknown people are not known to us.
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The Balamand Declaration and the Joint Statement on Justification with the Lutherans was put together with this new philosophy ( invisible people are visible) and new theology ( these 'visible' people are examples of salvation outside the Church, they contradict Feeneyite EENS).

SALVATION OPEN TO ALL AND ALL NEED TO ENTER THE CHURCH FOR SALVATION

So now when the priest says salvation is open to all but does not say that all need to enter the Church as members for salvation, correct him and ask him to repeat the left out statement.Usually priests say that first half and ignore the important and controversial second half of the statement.This is LOHO (Letter of the Holy Office 1949)-reasoning.The LOHO was heretical and in schism with the past popes.There are no known cases of BOD, BOB and I.I for them to be exceptions to EENS.They are only speculative possibilities.

STRICT INTERPRETATION OF EENS NOT REJECTED BY VATICAN COUNCIL II

So when the priest says that the strict interpretation of the dogma EENS was rejected by Vatican Council II tell him this is false.Since LG 8,LG 16 etc refer to hypothetical cases.They are not known people saved outside the Catholic Church.So you affirm LG 8 etc without assuming that they are exceptions to EENS.

CHURCH MADE AN OBJECTIVE MISTAKE IN THE FR. LEONARD FEENEY CASE.

When the priest says Fr. Leonard Feeney was excommunicated for holding the strict interpretation of the dogma EENS tell him that this is false since Fr.Feeney did not recant and the excommunication was lifted.He was granted a funeral in the Church.Also the Church at that time, could have known that it had made a mistake in 1949.Since invisible and unknown cases of the BOD, BOB, I.I, LG 8, LG 16, UR 3, GS 22, NA 2 etc could not be visible and known exceptions to the dogma EENS.This was an objective mistake.

AFFIRM FEENEYITE EENS IN AGREEMENT WITH THE CHURCH FATHERS AND VATICAN COUNCIL II

So now affirm Feeneyite EENS it is traditional.It is EENS according to the missionaries and Magisterium of the Church in the 16th century.It is EENS according to the Apostles and Church Fathers and it is in agreement with Vatican Council II ( without the premise).-Lionel Andrades