Monday, April 9, 2018

If the Conference on Saturday affirmed Feeneyite EENS in harmony with Vatican Council II and the Catechism (1994) liberal cardinals would not be able to say that they affirm the same doctrine

Comment on the blog Vox Cantoris, Declaration of the Rome Conference  9 April 2018

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It's nice to hear them repeat the moral teachings of the Church but the real issue is the faith and salvation teachings, here is where lies the confusion which changes doctrine on mission, ecumenism, non Christian religions, inter faith marriages and mortal sin, the receiving of the Eucharist for non Catholics etc.

Possibly liberal cardinals would also support their declaration at this Conference, saying that doctrine has not been changed by Pope Francis.



However if the speakers at the Conference could affirm Feeneyite extra ecclesiam nulla salus in harmony with Vatican Council II ( AG 7 supports the dogma EENS and LG 8, LG 16, GS 22 etc are not explicit exceptions) and the Catechism of the Catholic Church(1257 etc), then the liberal cardinals would not be able to say that they affirm the same doctrine.They would be up against a wall.


We now know that invisible baptism of desire, baptism of blood and being saved in invincible ignorance never were visible exceptions to Feeneyite extra ecclesiam nulla salus.

The Holy Office 1949 and the Archbishop of Boston Richard Cushing made an objective mistake and Fr. Leonard Feeney was correct.



So now with this rational approach ( invisible baptism of desire cases are not visible) what if we re-read Vatican Council II ?



It would mean there is nothng in Vatican Council II to contradict the dogma EENS and the past ecclesiology of the Church.So there can only be an ecumenism of return since there are no known cases of salvation outside the church.There is no theological base for the new ecumenism. Since there are no known exceptions outside the Church for us human beings, there is no theological basis for the New Theology of Rahner, Ratzinger and others.



If understanding of Vatican Council II in harmony with EENS, was a declaration at a conference do you think the two popes and the liberal cardinals would accept it?

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So when is Cardinal Burke and Bishop Schnieder going to say all non Catholics are on the way to Hell according to Vatican Council II(AG 7) and there are no exceptions mentioned in the text of Vatican Council II. So Vatican Council II is in harmony with extra ecclesiam nulla salus according to the missionaries and Magisterium of the 16th century ?
When will they say this ?
I don't know.
It was much easier for them issuing this declaration last Saturday in Rome.
Can you imagine Bishop Schneider saying all the Muslim Kazakhs are on the way to Hell with no known exceptions according to Ad Gentes 7 ? Can you imagine Cardinal Burke saying all the Jews in Boston are on the way to Hell if they die without faith and baptism?-Lionel Andrades


APRIL 9, 2018




Is Vatican Council II a rupture with EENS? This is crucial. Since if there is no rupture with Feeneyite EENS then it means the old ecclesiology is intact

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2018/04/is-vatican-council-ii-rupture-with-eens.html




















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