Michael Voris maintains the ambiguity and does not address the points I repeat

Hi Lionel,

  That is what Michael Voris believes . I do not understand you. 

https://www.churchmilitant.com/video/episode/vortex-just-gotta-say-it

Jan 26, 2018

Since practically no bishop and so few priests are willing to just come right out with it, we "gotta" just say it ...

Lionel: I agree with what Michael Voris has said on this video.My concern is  with what he does not say and so I keep repeating it. 1

I  keep saying that the baptism of desire(BOD),baptism of blood(BOB) and being saved in invincible ignorance (I.I)  are not exceptions to the dogma outside the Church there is no salvation which Michael mentions in this Vortex (Just Gotta Say It).

.Do you understand me here. Does Michael Voris understand me ? Then why does he not say the same ?He just gotta say it but does not.

For the Archdiocese of Detroit and the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith invisible cases of BOD, BOB and I.I are visible exceptions to the dogma outside the Church there is no salvation. I keep saying this. Why does Michael Voris not say the same? What prevents him?

He once asked Fr.Jonathan Morris, in the Archbdiocese of New York whom did he know who does not have to enter the Church to be saved in the present times. The ex-Legionary priest  probably said that there were exceptions.2

Then after some time, on a Vortex,  Michael suggested that not every one needs to be a 'card carrying member' of the Catholic Church for salvation.So in other words invisible cases of the BOD, BOB and I.I are visible exceptions to all needing to convert into the Church for salvation. So everyone one does not need to enter the Church was his theological position.

DOES THE BAPTISM OF DESIRE REFER TO INVISIBLE PEOPLE IN 2018 FOR CMTV?

I say that invisible for us cases of being saved in invincible ignorance(LG 16) and the baptism of desire(LG 14) and LG 8, UR 3, GS 22 etc are not explicit and so are not exceptions in the present time to the dogma outside the Church there is no salvation.When will Michael Voris say the same .Does he agree or disagree with me?

DOES VATICAN COUNCIL II SUPPORT AN ECUMENISM OF RETURN AND THE OLD EXCLUSIVE ECCLESIOLOGY?

In recent Vortex  One, Big, Failure he does not use any time to say that Vatican Council II can be interpreted in  harmony with the Syllabus of Errors, the past ecclesiology and an ecumenism of return.This was something which was not done over 50 years.I keep repeating this. Why cannot he affirm or deny it? Since he doesn't believe it?

He often talks about the  effects of Vatican Council II and does not not state that Vatican Council II has passages which support EENS and no passage which contradicts EENS. Since for him there are passages in Vatican Council II which contradict EENS?

THERE ARE NO PASSAGES IN VATICAN COUNCIL II TO CONTRADICT FEENEYITE EENS FOR CMTV?

So if there are passages which contradict EENS and theologically there are exceptions to EENS then this contradicts what he has said on this video Just Gotta Say It on outside the Church there being no salvation.The CMTV staff are  liberals like the Archbishop of Detroit and other bishops.

Michael Voris interprets Vatican Council II like the liberals and is not really proclaiming the Faith.He seems to prefer the ambiguity and silence, of the bishops whom he criticizes.

He does not have it in him to say that according to Vatican Council II(AG 7) all Jews and Muslims in Detroit and Michigan are on the way to Hell unless they convert into the Church and there can be no known exceptions.

ALL NON CATHOLICS WHO HAVE DIED IN DETROIT ARE IN HELL WITH NO KNOWN EXCEPTIONS FOR CMTV?

He does not have it in him to say that according to Vatican Council II all non Catholics who have died in the Archdiocese, Christians and non Christians, are in Hell today. This is the perennial Magisterium of the Church supported by Vatican Council II.

EVEN THE LIBERALS SAY OUTSIDE THE CHURCH THERE IS NO  SALVATION AND MEAN SOMETHING ELSE.

Even the liberals  say outside the Church there is no salvation but mean  every one does not need to enter the Church since there are known exceptions of BOD, BOB and I.I. I think of Jimmy Akins, Mark Shea, Tim Staples,the English bishops, the USCCB...

So Michael Voris is maintaining the ambiguity by not addressing the points I keep repeating on this blog.

-Lionel Andrades

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 APRIL 14, 2018

Michael Voris can still choose the alternative interpretation of Vatican Council II and try to bring the truth out in a way which will not offend the Archdiocese    http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2018/04/michael-voris-can-still-choose.html


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Fr.Jonathan Morris never apologized he assumed the confusion is the norm in the Church http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2014/08/frjonathan-morris-never-apologized-he.html

MARCH 14, 2013

It has been part of Fr.Jonathan Morris' formation that the baptism of desire is an exception to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus and that Vatican Council II contradicts itself

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2013/03/it-has-been-part-of-frjonathan-morris.html

SBC, SSPX, FSSP ANNOUNCE THAT WE CANNOT NAME ANY PERSON WHO IS AN EXCEPTION TO EXTRA ECCLESIAM NULLA SALUS AND VATICAN COUNCIL II

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2013/03/sbc-sspx-fssp-could-announce-that-we.html#links