Friday, April 13, 2018

Where is Fr.John Zuhlsdorf's Catholic Identity ?

Gallup Poll points to future demographic disaster. Wherein Fr. Z rants.  by Fr.John Zuhlsdorf

The result: erosion of Catholic identity.
Lionel: Feeneyite extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS) is in harmony with Vatican Council II,all the Catechisms and the popes on this subject.The Church still affirms the strict interpretation of the dogma EENS in its magisterial documents interpreted rationally. This is our Catholic Identity.
And if we don’t know who we are, why should anyone pay attention to us except to crush out what we could be were we to get our act together again?
Lionel: Fr. Z does not affirm Feeneyite EENS in harmony with Vatican Council II ( Feeneyite) and all Magisterial documents interpreted without the irrational premise. He does not have a fixed and traditional Catholic identity.So how can he convey it to others ? It is the same problem with others priests.
We must NOW….
  • purify celebrations of the Novus Ordo of their aberrations and bring them back into harmony with tradition and do what the Council asked regarding music, etc.
Lionel: Also affirm Vatican Council II (Ad Gentes 7) it says all need faith and baptism for salvation.This means all non Catholics in 2018 are on the way to Hell, without Catholic faith and the baptism of water.This is Vatican Council II . It also means that all non Catholics who have died outside the Church are in Hell. Since faith and baptism is the ordinary means of salvation and we humans cannot know of any exception. This is Vatican Council II. This is our Catholic Identity which Fr. Z needs to affirm at Mass and on the Internet.

  • expand the use of the traditional form of Mass in many more places
Lionel: Without the Catholic Idenity, the Traditional Latin Mass like the Mass in other Rites, projects the new ecclesiology, the new theology based on their being known exceptions to the past exclusivist ecclesiology of the Church. This is not our Catholic Identiy.This is an innovation in the Church.

  • bring formation of priests into continuity with our past while looking forward, which will include actually obeying Canon Law about Latin and Aquinas and attending to what is laid down in the Congregation for Educations document about Patristic studies, etc.
Lionel: Yes. I agree. However this is already being done in many places.It is also being done at the Society of St. Pius X(SSPX) seminaries and they reject the past exclusivist ecclesiology with their  visible- for- us baptism of desire etc.So they re-interpret St.Thomas Aquinas and St. Augustine on EENS, with an irrational premise. 
For example St. Thomas Aquinas affirmed the traditional, strict interpretation of the dogma EENS.He said that the man in the forest in ignorance, who was to be saved would have God sending him a preacher. So he would be baptised when he was in Heaven. The liberal theologians interpret the man in the forest as being a known person saved outside the Church. The traditionalists accept this.
This is not our Catholic Identity.
So when the Catholic Identity is not conveyed to Catholics in general they do not have it.

  • get down on our knees and do penance, openly, publicly, with bishops and priests even lying flat on their faces on the steps of their cathedrals begging God to forgive our collective stupidity and offenses against Christ’s Sacred Heart and Mary’s Immaculate Heart.
Lionel: Do this after the Faith is proclaimed with truth and integrity. Affirm Feeneyite EENS and also Vatican Council II and all the Catechisms.

Lionel: To change the meaning of extra ecclesiam nulla salus and the understanding of the Nicene Creed is a mortal sin of faith. To interpret Vatican Council II with a falsehood and deception, as Fr. Z does, is a sin.
-Lionel Andrades

No comments: