Left and right schism

Today morning at Mass in Italian the priest  during the homily  referred to schismatics and traditionalists, those who were not accepted by the Magisterum because of doctrine or because they do not hold the same teachings as the Magisterium.

For me he was saying that those traditionalists who interpreted Vatican Council II  with Cushingism, and so rejected the non traditional conclusion which would be obvious , were in a rupture with EENS and so in schism.

But also for me this priest, who was speaking on a different subject and the reference to traditionalists and schismatics was indirect, would also be in schism. Since he too, was interpreting Vatican Council II with Cushingism and was accepting the non traditional conclusion.He was in schism with the popes and saints over the centuries on extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS). He was in a rupture with the centuries old exclusivist ecclesiology of the Church.

So with Cushingism the traditionalists are in schism for not accepting Vatican Council II with Feeneyism.They are Cushingites. They are also in heresy for affirming EENS with Cushingism and so this is a rupture with traditional EENS( Feeneyite).

The traditionalists are in schism with the present Magisterium who interpret Vatican Council II irrationally and schismatically using Cushingism. They are correct to reject this interpretation of Vatican Council II, when the Magisterium makes a mistake.

But the traditionalists are also in schism with the popes of the past for interpreting EENS with Cushingism i.e there are visible and known cases of the baptism of desire(BOD), baptism of blood(BOB) and being saved in invincible ignorance(I.I)  which are exceptions to traditional EENS.This is the SSPX position.

But even the two popes are in the same schismatic boat. The present Magisterium, the Vatican Curia, is in schism for interpreting EENS and Vatican Council II with Cushingism, like the traditionalists, and accepting the non traditional conclusion, unlike the traditionalists.

The two liberal popes, do not interpret Vatican Council II with Feeneyism.So they are not in harmony with EENS as it was  interpreted, for example, by the Magisterium in the 16th century.So the Vatican Curia is in a rupture with the Syllabus of Errors, an ecumenism of return, outside the Church there is no salvation for non Christians,the necessity of the Social Reign of Christ the King over all political legislation based on traditional EENS etc.

So now we have schismatic modern popes and schismatic traditionalists.

The Societry of St. Pius X(SSPX) for example assume invisible cases of the BOD, BOB and I.I are visible examples of salvation outside the Church and so contradict Feeneyite EENS.This is Cushingism.They interpret the Catechisms of  Trent and Pius X as a rupture with Feeneyite EENS and the centuries old exclusivist ecclesiology of the Catholic Church.Since BOD, BOB and I.I mentioned in the Catechisms refers to known salvation outside the Church for them too.This is an error due to the Cushingite reasoning.It is their innovation.But the two liberal popes and the liberal theologians make the same mistake.

Similarly the sedevacantists bishops Donald Sanborn and Mark A.Pivarunas interpret the Catechism of the Catholic Church(1994) with Cushingism.So it becomes a rupture with EENS and the Syllabus of Errors.They do the same with Vatican Council II and then reject this Vatican Council II(Cushingite).They seem unaware of Vatican Council II (Feeneyite).But the present two popes and the liberal theologians are in the same soup.

So who is in schism and who is not, who is in and who is out?

I affirm Vatican Council II, the Catechisms and EENS with Feeneyism( invisible cases are invicible, hypothetical cases are not objectively visible in the present times). So I am in harmony with Tradition.There is no hermeneutic of rupture.From my perspective the present two popes and the traditionalists are in schism with the popes of the past they are also heretically interpreting Vatican Council II, EENS and other magisterial documents.

They interpret EENS with visible for them BOD, BOB and I.I being objective exceptions. This is nonsense.

They interpret Vatican Council II with visible for them LG 8, LG 14, LG 16, UR 3, NA 2 ,GS 22 etc being objective exceptions to EENS as it was known to the missionaries in the 16th century.

They also affirm both Feeneyism and Cushingism.See Jimmy Akins do this  at the end of the video, shown  below.He is responding to the Cushingite text in Vatican Council II which is placed along side the Feeneyite text e.g Ad Gentes 7 and Lumen Gentium 14 say all need faith and baptism for salvation and also suggest unknown cases of non Catholics saved with the baptism of desire or in invincible ignorance are exceptions.

Cushingism is irrational and an innovation in the Church it is not part of the Deposit of the Faith.But without Cushingism the priests who offer Mass in Italian, Latin and other Rites, would be under pressure. They would have to say that all non Catholic are oriented to Hell with no known exceptions. Vatican Council II would not contradict EENS and then the Left would object.

So Cushingism is a convenient lie. The deception keeps the peace and avoids controversy.

So with Cushingism the priest today morning would also be in schism since he does not choose ( or does not know how) to interpret magisterial documents with Feeneyism and in line with the Tradition.

That the traditionalists do not announce that the present two popes are in schism with the past popes  and that there is a rational way to avoid it, is their fault.

This priest today  referred to the traditionalists as being schismatics since the traditionalists have not told him that they could accept Vatican Council II ( Feeneyite) and that he could do the same. Vatican Council II would then be out of the way, it would not be an issue any more.

So the traditionalists and sedevacantists must first affirm Vatican Council II (Feeneyite) and then make the accusation against the liberal,left Magisterium, who will then not be able to say that the traditionalists reject Vatican Council II, Vatican Council II ( Feeneyite).The popes must be asked to affirm Vatican Council II (Feeneyite) since it is rational, traditional and non heretical.-Lionel Andrades

Video : Is there Salvation Outside the Church ?
https://youtu.be/KM0Vav0jUxw
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MAY 21, 2018

Jimmy Akins writes a book on salvation which does not comment on the issue of Cushingism and Feeenyism in the interpretation of EENS, Vatican Council II and other Magisterial documents

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2018/05/jimmy-akins-wites-book-on-salvation.html

MAY 22, 2018

With Feeneyism there will be an end to the present doctrinal confusion in the Church. The ecclesiology of the Catholic Church will be the same before and after Vatican Council II and the present two popes must be asked to affirm it  http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2018/05/with-feeneyism-there-will-be-end-to.html

MAY 22, 2018

Cardinal Burke: False religions that permit abortion should be suppressed

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2018/05/cardinal-burke-false-religions-that.html

MAY 22, 2018

Cardinal Raymond Burke could meet the leaders of Forza Nuova and Militia Christi in Italy just as he met Matteo Salvini : Social Reign of Christ the King over all political legislation could be explained

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2018/05/cardinal-raymond-burke-could-meet.html

MAY 22, 2018

Scott Hahn would want a re-evangelisation but Catholics would have to return to a Church, which rejects the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus, interprets Vatican Council II with an irrationality, uses a false premise to interpret the Catechism of the Catholic Church...

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2018/05/scott-hahn-would-want-re-evangelisation.html

MAY 22, 2018

Ralph Martin would be interpreting the Catechisms as a rupture with the popes and saints on EENS and this would be official heresy and schism : but not for me with Feeneyism I have a rational , traditional and non heretical choice

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2018/05/ralph-martin-would-be-interpreting.html

MAY 21, 2018

Pope Benedict XVI and Bishop Robert Barron use a false premise to interpret Vatican Council II as a rupture with extra ecclesiam nulla salus : then they call for mission based on beauty

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2018/05/pope-benedict-and-bishop-barron-use.html

AUGUST 17, 2017









Bishops Fellay, Schneider are not proclaiming the Social Reign of Christ the King supported by Vatican Council II ( Feeneyite) http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/08/bishops-fellay-schneider-are-not.html

MAY 21, 2018

Dr.Taylor Marshall's New St. Thomas Institute uses irrational Cushingism as a theology : Fischer More College theological mistake still not corrected

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2018/05/drtaylor-marshalls-new-st-thomas.html