Thursday, June 28, 2018

Reposts : Catechetical programs of the USCCB in Boston, Worcester, Manchester are using a false premise

APRIL 16, 2014

Catechetical programs of the USCCB in Boston, Worcester, Manchester are using a false premise

Since the USCCB assumes that being saved in invincible ignorance and the baptism of desire are exceptions to all needing to enter the Catholic Church for salvation (See Fr.Peter C.Phan Notification of the USCCB), for them,the dead-saved with the baptism of desire etc  are visible exceptions to extra ecclesiam nulla salus.So the Diocese of Worcester, Manchester and Boston  in the USA repeat this objective error; of being able to see the dead,  in its catechetical programs.
Students who have studied at schools of the Slaves of the Immaculate Heart of Mary who can interpret magisterial documents in agreement with extra ecclesiam nulla salus, would find at parish catechism programs, that they are being taught that the Catechism (1993)contradicts itself. They are also taught to use an irrational interpretation of Vatican Council II. So the Council is a break with the dogma on salvation and the Catechism of Pope Pius X.
In the Diocese of Worcester where the St.Benedict Centers, the communities of Fr.Leonard Feeney, have canonical status, the Catechetical courses for laypeople, take it for granted  that CCC 846 is contradicted by CCC 847 and 848. The Catechism (CCC 846) says all need to enter the Church as through  a door and the Catechism also says all do not need to enter the Church (CCC 847,) since there are (known) exceptions saved in invincible ignorance etc.
The Called to Discipleship Course is available for Catholics and is intended for
  • Catechists in parishes and Catholic schools
  • Youth Ministers
  • Lectors
  • Eucharistic Ministers
  • RCIA Team Members
  • Anyone in parish ministry
  • Parishioners interested in enrichment (1)
For all of them (above) the Catechism is interpreted irrationally and so also Vatican Council II.
All salvation referred to in Vatican Council II i.e being saved with the seeds of the Word (AG 11), invincible ignorance (LG 16), imperfect communion with the Church (UR 3), good and holy things in other religions (NA 2) can be interpreted with COLUMN A or COLUMN B
Implicit or us.
hypothetical for us.
dejure (in principle).
explicit for us.
known in reality.
visible in the flesh.
defacto (in fact).
If COLUMN B is chosen then Vatican Council II contradicts the dogmaextra ecclesiam nulla salus, the Syllabus of Errors and Tradition.There are known exceptions. The dead-saved are visible. This is an irrational and common interpretation of Vatican Council II, it  is the one used Worcester,Manchester and Boston and is recommended by the USCCB.
If COLUMN A is chosen in the interpretation then Vatican Council II does not contradict the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus and Tradition.The Catholic Church's teaching on other religions and Christians communities and churches is the same before and after Vatican Council II.This is not taught in the Call to Discipleship Courses.
So there can be two interpretations of magisterial documents one rational and the other irrational and the dioceses are choosing the irrational one.

The University of Notre Dame’s Satellite Theological Education Program (STEP) (2)has partnered with the Diocese of Manchester to create an online version of the Called to Discipleship Core Course(2)They use a false premise in the interpretation of magisterial documents.
An Example of the False Premise and the Conclusion in Boston, Worcester and Manchester.

Seeds of the Word (Ad Gentes 7, Vatican Council II)

With the False Premise:
We can see non Catholics who have received salvation in 2014 with 'seeds of the Word'.
Conclusion: Vatican Council II contradicts extra ecclesiam nulla salus.
Vatican Council II contradicts itself. AG 7 - 'all' need 'faith and baptism' for salvation contradicts AG 11- being saved with 'seeds of the Word'.
This is taught at the University of Notre Dame's STEP  and by the Paulist Fathers' evangelisation in the Diocese of Manchester.
Without the False Premise.
Being saved with seeds of the Word is a possibility.
A possibility is not a known reality in a specific case in the present times, for us. A possibility is not an exception.
Seeds of the Word is not an exception.
Since it is not visible and known in a specific case in 2014 it is not relevant or an exception to extra ecclesiam nulla salus.
Conclusion: Vatican Council II does not contradict the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.
This is not taught in USCCB approved Catholic Catechism.
Similarly in the interpretation of the Letter of the Holy Office 1949 to the Archbishop of Boston, Redemptoris Missio, Dominus Iesus etc the USCCB, Boston, Manchester and Worcester will use the False Premise and Column B in the interpretation.
-Lionel Andrades

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