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SEPTEMBER 12, 2013


Michael Voris is using Cushingism in the interpretation of Vatican Council II like everybody else

Here is the script of Michael Voris' recent video Self Destruction.

Self-Destruction
vort-2013-09-11

http://youtu.be/yUE6iCOH8Yg

Hello everyone and welcome to The Vortex where lies and falsehoods are trapped and
exposed. I’m Michael Voris.
Have you ever heard this before?
"The Church finds herself in an hour of anxiety, a disturbed period of self-criticism, or
what would even better be called self-demolition [auto-destruction]. It is an interior upheaval, acute and complicated, which nobody expected after the Council. It is almost as if
the Church were attacking itself. We looked forward to a flowering, a serene expansion
of conceptions, which matured in the great sessions of the council. But ... one must notice
above all the sorrowful aspect. It is as if the Church were destroying herself."

Lionel:
True. We agree with him. 
We’ll tell you in a moment who said those words and when, but first – let’s just examine
them from a straight-forward fashion.
The first sentence is quite the statement – hour of anxiety, self-criticism, self-demolition.
Phrasing like that means the damage is coming from within, not from outside.

Lionel:
Correct. It is from within.It includes traditionalists like him using Cushingism in the interpertation of Vatican Council II. Cushingism is an irrational premise and it is being used by most Catholics to interpret all magisterial documents including Vatican Coiuncil II.

To underscore this – the second sentence begins with the pointed and direct phrase –
“interior upheaval”. That is a massively important phrase because it not only say in two
words the entire issue, but also points out the crisis of the moment – there is an upheaval
in the Church based on the actions of some inside her.

Lionel:
We are aware of the interior upheavel and we know the cause .Michael does not know the cause or if he does know does not  want to mention it in his videos for political reasons.

The Church attacking herself – yep, certainly looks that way. But for the Church to
attack herself, what would she attack. It would have to be her past. There is nothing in
the Church that members of the Church would be capable of attacking other than her past
– her tradition.

Lionel:
Tradition is attacked when a new premise,an irrational one is used to interpret doctrine.Michael is using it too. Since he can only know Vatican Council II through the Cushing interpretation, he does not seem to know like other Catholics, that the Council can be interpreted with Feeneyism.

Granted, there are numerous, almost countless ways in which such attacks could be
leveled – but the goal would be singular – the dismantling of all that went before.
“It’s as if the Church were destroying herself.” That sad line exists nowhere in substance
in 2000 years of sacred history other than in this speech – the Church destroying herself!
A church committing suicide. This talk was given in 1968 by none other than Pope Paul
VI himself.

Lionel:
Pope Paul VI was aware of it since it began before Vatican Coiuncil II.

Yet today .. we have naïve Pollyannas...
-Lionel Andrades


Catholic magisterial documents can be interpreted according to Feeneyism or Cushingism
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2013/08/catholic-magisterial-ocuments-can-be.html#links

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