Repost : Ask Ecclesia Dei if the SSPX can accept Vatican Council II without the error of the dead being visible on earth

NOVEMBER 27, 2012

Ask Ecclesia Dei if the SSPX can accept Vatican Council II without the error of the dead being visible on earth

The Pontifical Commission Ecclesia Dei in a letter, responding to queries by a priest, has stated that :

As long as the Society does not have canonical status in the Church,its ministers do not excercise legitimate ministries in the Church.There needs to be a distinction then,between the disciplinary level which deals with individuals as such,and the doctrinal level at which minsitry and instituion are involved.In order to make this clear once again: until the doctrinal questions are clarified, the Society has no canonical status in the Church...- Ecclesia Dei, Vatican City. November 6,2012 (posted on Rorate Caeli)

This is the time for the SSPX to respond. Doctrine is in their favour, if they only understand!

Ask Ecclesia Dei if Vatican Council II can be accepted as a continuation with Tradition, with the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus according to Fr.Leonard Feeney and the Syllabus of Errors. We do not know any case of a non Catholic being saved with implicit desire or in invincible ignorance for these cases to be relevant to the literal interpretation of the dogma on salvation.

Ask them if the SSPX can accept Vatican Council II without the error of the dead being visible on earth. So Lumen Gentium 16 on invincible ignorance and a good conscience, would not contradict the thrice defined dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus. Nor would it contradict Ad Gentes 7 which says all need faith and baptism for salvation.

Vatican Council II would be in agreementdoctrinally with the SSPX position on other religions and ecumenism.( Cantate Domino, Council of Florence 1441, Ad Gentes 7, Catechism of the Catholic Church 845 and 846 etc).

Ask them if it is a new doctrine and not part of the deposit of the faith to hold the view, that there is explicit implicit salvation and- then  to claim that this is mentioned in the text of Vatican Council II.

If Ecclesia Dei can throw away the dogma because of allegedly known cases of the dead saved and visible to us, then they should not expect Catholics not to throw away Church teachings on, abortion  and contraception.

-Lionel Andrades