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Repost : Cardinal Richard Cushing contributed to the illusion of the baptism of desire being an exception to the ordinary means of salvation chosen by God

OCTOBER 15, 2012

Cardinal Richard Cushing contributed to the illusion of the baptism of desire being an exception to the ordinary means of salvation chosen by God

Here is a comment on one of the posts on this blog
Anonymous:
If God is not bound by His Sacraments, He would make Himself untrustworthy. He has bound Himself by His Word, and will not (and cannot) deceive us.

Lionel:
Those who cannot say that we do not know any case of the baptism of desire or being saved in invincible ignorance have difficulty here.Those who assume that the baptism of desire is known to us explicitly would have difficulty here.They would assume that the baptism of desire is an exception and so it is being said that the dogma has explicit exceptions.

Those who know that we do not know any exceptions, and that they are irrelevant to the literal interpretation of the dogma, know that this is not an issue.

The baptism of water is the ordinary means of salvation we all agree here.

If God chooses to save a person without the Sacraments it would be known only to God. So it does not contradict the ordinary, normal way chosen by God for us to go to Heaven and avoid Hell.

It was Cardinal Richard Cushing who contributed to the illusion of the baptism of desire being an exception to the ordinary means of salvation chosen by God.

Anonymous :
I think it is the Church that says angels cannot baptize.

Lionel:
If God chose to send an angel to baptize someone it is possible. God being God.
However we cannot know of any such case. So it does not contradict the teaching of the dogma extra ecclesiam, which says all must convert. It does not also contradict Vatican Council II (AG 7 ) which says all need Catholic Faith and the baptism of water.-Lionel Andrades

BISHOP RAFFAELLO MARTINELLI SAYS THE CHURCH KNOWS OF NO MEANS TO SALVATION OTHER THAN THE BAPTISM OF WATER 
However because of the Richard Cushing error he also says that we can hope for the salvation of all infants who die before baptism.
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2012/09/bishop-raffaelo-martinelli-says-church.html

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