Repost : Daphne McLeod resigns : how will PEEP interpret Vatican Council II ?
MAY 12, 2014
Daphne McLeod resigns : how will PEEP interpret Vatican Council II ?
Daphne McLeod has resigned as Chairman of the English-based Pro Ecclesia et Pontifice (PEEP) organisation, which, over many years now, has exposed errors in the religious education textbooks used in Catholic.The new Chairman is Mr.Graham Moorhouse according to Catholic Truth of Scotland.
'The PEEP committee has set itself the task of producing a catechesis course for six to thirteen year olds that can be emailed to children and their parents weekly. This is a major commitment which involves writing several hundred modules, so volunteers are
urgently needed to help with this project.
Volunteers need to be teachers or have teaching experience, either at primary school level or as successful homeeducators.'
Obviously only volunteers who accept orthodox Catholic teaching on all the “hot button” issues of the day will be accepted, it is stated.
How will Mr.Graham Moorhouse catechize with respect to Vatican Council II ?
As I mentioned in a previous post the use of an inference in Vatican Council II is not Catholic doctrine or theology. It is not part of the Deposit of the Faith.
To infer that the dead-saved with ' a ray of the Truth' is visible to us is an intellectual observation.
Upon this intellectual observation is built the theology of the Catholic Bishops Conference of England and Wales.
So in Ad Gentes 7 one can infer that all do not need to enter the Church but only 'those who know' about Jesus and the Church and they are visible on earth.If they were not visible on earth, it would mean that all need faith and baptism for salvation (AG 7).There would be no exceptions. Only God can know who 'knows' about the Church (AG 11,LG 14) and who was in invincible ignorance(LG 16).When they are invisible for us they refer to implicit cases. They are not exceptions to extra ecclesiam nulla salus.
When Cardinal Gerhard Muller was asked about the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus , he said 'The Second Vatican Council also said this: Lumen Gentium 14 says: “Whosoever, therefore, knowing that the Catholic Church was made necessary by Christ, would refuse to enter or to remain in it, could not be saved.” 1 He is inferring here that 'whosoever knowing' refers to cases visible to us on earth. So they become explicit exceptions to extra ecclesiam nulla salus. This inference is irrational.It is the familiar visible-dead premise.
Once it is understood that the inference is false and irrational Vatican Council II 'changes' fundamentally.
1.PEEP must affirm all texts and documents in Vatican Council II in accord with the traditional and literal interpretation of extra ecclesiam nulla salus. Affirm the dogma on exclusive salvation according to the Church Councils, the popes, saints,Fr. Leonard Feeney and the SSPX General Chapter Statement 2012.2
2.Nostra Aetate 2 (saved with a ray of the Truth) does not contradict extra ecclesiam nulla salus.Nostra Aetate is in agreement with the SSPX and PEEP traditional position on other religions and salvation.
3.Unitatitis Redintigratio 3 ( imperfect communion with the Church) does not contradict the dogma on exclusive salvation.We do not know anyone in 2014 saved in imperfect communion with the Church.We cannot name anyone.
4.Ad Gentes 11 ( seeds of the Word) does not contradict the dogma on exclusive salvation, the Catechism of Pope Pius X or the Syllabus of Errors.
5.Lumen Gentium 8 ( elements of sanctification and truth) does not contradict extra ecclesiam nulla salus .
6.Dignitatis Humanae says a Catholic has a right to proclaim his Faith. This would be done with the dogma on exclusive salvation in the Church.
DH says in a state with a secular Constitution a non Catholic is legally free to profess his religion.This is a defacto situation in which Catholics can still at all levels ( political etc) affirm extra ecclesiam nulla salus i.e non Catholics are oriented to Hell unless they convert into the Catholic Church.
7.Gaudium et Specs does not contradict Ad Gentes 7 which says 'all' need 'faith and baptism' for salvation.AG 7 is in agreement with the dogma on salvation and there are no exceptions mentioned in any text of Vatican Council II to AG 7.
The key to this interpretation of Vatican Council IIis the inference.
Once it is understood that we cannot infer that the deceased-saved are visible to us, Vatican Council II changes radically.It would be in accord with PEEP's traditional catechesis.
It would also mean that Cardinal Richard Cushing and the Jesuits in Boston were in heresy for implying(inferring) that there were explicit exceptions to extra ecclesiam nulla salus.Presently members of PEEP could be making this same inference.
If the Bishops Conference states that PEEP's catechesis must accept Vatican Council II PEEP would respond positively.They accept Vatican Council II in accord with the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus and without the visible-dead inference. PEEP would reject the common interpretation of Vatican Council II with the dead man walking and visible premise.
The SSPX and PEEP could affirm Vatican Council II and also Catholic Tradition. The teachings of the Catholic Church for them would be the same before and after Vatican Council II.
Do you, nevertheless, accept there’s been a weakening of the Church’s teaching because of this underlying confusion of terminology? One example sometimes cited is that the teaching of “no salvation outside the Church” seems to have become less prominent.
Archbishop Gerhard Muller:
That has been discussed, but here, too, there has been a development of all that was said in the Church, beginning with St. Cyprian, one of the Fathers of the Church, in the third century. Again, the perspective is different between then and now. In the third century, some Christian groups wanted to be outside the Church, and what St. Cyprian said is that without the Church a Christian cannot be saved. The Second Vatican Council also said this: Lumen Gentium 14 says: “Whosoever, therefore, knowing that the Catholic Church was made necessary by Christ, would refuse to enter or to remain in it, could not be saved.” He who is aware of the presence of Revelation is obliged by his conscience to belong publicly — and not only in his conscience, in his heart — to this Catholic Church by remaining in communion with the Pope and those bishops in communion with him.
it seems opportune that we reaffirm our faith in the Roman Catholic Church, the unique Church founded by Our Lord Jesus Christ, outside of which there is no salvation nor possibility to find the means leading to salvation;