Monday, June 18, 2018

Repost : The Holy Spirit cannot make a mistake and there is a fundamental mistake in Vatican Council II and the Catechism of the Catholic Church.

NOVEMBER 9, 2017

The Holy Spirit cannot make a mistake and there is a fundamental mistake in Vatican Council II and the Catechism of the Catholic Church.

Compendium :   Catechism of the Catholic Church
The Catechism of the Catholic Church(1994) is based on Vatican Council II and this is a limitation.Since a foundational theme in Vatican Council II is assuming hypothetical cases are non hypothetical.This is a mistake.It is assumed hypothetical cases are known examples of salvation outside the Church, when there are no such known cases in our reality.It concludes that these hypothetical cases are explicit exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS).The error is clear in Lumen Gentium 14 which does not state that everyone needs to enter the Church with no exceptions for salvation but only those who know.In other words, unknown cases of being saved in invincible ignorance are known examplesof salvation outside the Church.

ERROR IN THEOLOGY HAS SPREAD TO MAGISTERIAL DOCUMENTS
So everyone does not need to enter, at least not 'the known cases' who are saved in invincible ignorance etc.The new doctrinal teaching is onlythose who know need to enter the Church.This is now part of the new 'developed' ecclesiology  approved in Redemptoris Missio,Dominus Iesus, Balamand Declaration, Christianity and the World Religions, of the International Theological Commission etc.

SUBTLE ERROR IN VATICAN COUNCIL II
This is a subtle error in Vatican Council II which was picked up from the Letter of the Holy Office 1949 to the Archbishop of Boston.In 1949 they tried to eliminate traditional EENS by assuming unknown cases of the baptism of desire(BOD), baptism of blood(BOB) and being saved in invincible ignorance(I.I) were known examples of salvation outside the Church.
Cardinal Ratzinger instead of correcting the error, if he knew about it, repeated it in the Catechism(1994) in CCC 846,1257 etc.


AVERAGE CATHOLIC CAN READ THE CATECHISM INCORRECTLY
So an average Catholic will read the Catechism incorrectly.For example CCC 1257 On the Necessity of Baptism,would be saying for him that everyone defacto needs to enter the Church but some do not defacto need to do so,when God is not limited to the Sacraments.This is irrational.It doesn't make sense.
1257 The Lord himself affirms that Baptism is necessary for salvation. He also commands his disciples to proclaim the Gospel to all nations and to baptize them. Baptism is necessary for salvation for those to whom the Gospel has been proclaimed and who have had the possibility of asking for this sacrament. The Church does not know of any means other than Baptism that assures entry into eternal beatitude; this is why she takes care not to neglect the mission she has received from the Lord to see that all who can be baptized are "reborn of water and the Spirit." God has bound salvation to the sacrament of Baptism, but he himself is not bound by his sacraments.-Catechism of the Catholic Church

THE RATIONAL WAY TO READ THE CATECHISM : DEJURE AND DEFACTO AND NOT DEFACTO AND DEFACTO
When I read CCC 1257, it is, everyone needs to defacto and concretely enter the Church with the baptism of water and Catholic faith.Those who are saved because God is not limited to the Sacraments refer to dejure, in theory and hypothetical cases.They cannot be explicit exceptions to all needing the baptism of water in the Church to avoid Hell.So the second part of CCC 1257 does not contradict the first part.Thered passage refers to a hypothetical case and so does not contradict the blue passage.

CATECHISM OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH 846 (OUTSIDE THE CHURCH NO SALVATION)

Similarly CCC 846 for an average Catholic would be saying all need faith and baptism for salvation, defacto, practically, but there are also known cases of being saved in invincible ignorance outside the Church.So all who are saved are saved through Jesus and the Church.Those who are not in invincible ignorance and know need to enter the Church.This is complicated.

THE WRONG WAY
So CCC 846 would be confusion.It would be saying :
1) every one defacto, practically needs to enter the Church for salvation.
He himself explicitly asserted the necessity of faith and Baptism, and thereby affirmed at the same time the necessity of the Church which men enter through Baptism as through a door-CCC 846
 2) There are known cases in invincible ignorance who are saved outside the Church without being practical members of the Church.So they cannot be saved who know 'that the Catholic Church was founded as necessary by God through Christ' and 'would refuse to enter it or remain in it'.
Hence they could not be saved who, knowing that the Catholic Church was founded as necessary by God through Christ, would refuse either to enter it or to remain in it-CCC 846
3) So every one does not need to enter the Church but only those who know.
Hence they could not be saved who, knowing that the Catholic Church was founded as necessary by God through Christ, would refuse either to enter it or to remain in it
4) All who are saved are saved through Jesus and the Church.
all salvation comes from Christ the Head through the Church which is his Body-CCC 846


846 How are we to understand this affirmation, often repeated by the Church Fathers? Re-formulated positively, it means that all salvation comes from Christ the Head through the Church which is his Body:
Basing itself on Scripture and Tradition, the Council teaches that the Church, a pilgrim now on earth, is necessary for salvation: the one Christ is the mediator and the way of salvation; he is present to us in his body which is the Church. He himself explicitly asserted the necessity of faith and Baptism, and thereby affirmed at the same time the necessity of the Church which men enter through Baptism as through a door. Hence they could not be saved who, knowing that the Catholic Church was founded as necessary by God through Christ, would refuse either to enter it or to remain in it.-Catechism of the Catholic Church


THE RATIONAL INTERPRETATION OF THE CCC 846 OUTSIDE THE CHURCH NO SALVATION
This is how I interpret CCC 846.
 1) every one defacto needs to be a member of the Church for salvation with faith and baptism.
He himself explicitly asserted the necessity of faith and Baptism, and thereby affirmed at the same time the necessity of the Church which men enter through Baptism as through a door-CCC 846
2) There are no known cases of being saved in invincible ignorance etc.We do not know who knows or does not know and is saved.So the following passage in red is meaningless with reference to the strict interpretation of the dogma EENS. It is not an exception.
Hence they could not be saved who, knowing that the Catholic Church was founded as necessary by God through Christ, would refuse either to enter it or to remain in it-CCC 846
3) Every one needs to enter the Church with faith and baptism.Since there are no known exceptions.
Basing itself on Scripture and Tradition, the Council teaches that the Church, a pilgrim now on earth, is necessary for salvation: the one Christ is the mediator and the way of salvation; he is present to us in his body which is the Church. He himself explicitly asserted the necessity of faith and Baptism, and thereby affirmed at the same time the necessity of the Church which men enter through Baptism as through a door. -CCC 846
4) All who are saved are saved through Jesus with membership in the Church, outside of which there is no salvation( All need faith and baptism for salvation-AG 7,Vatican Council II).
So the Catechism can be interpreted in harmony with the dogma outside the Church there is no salvation, as it was known to the missionaries of the 16th century.
How can we retain the Catechism(1994) and Vatican Council II,not reject them, and also find a Catechism which is simple,traditional and non heretical for Catholics in general ?

THEOLOGY GONE WRONG
The Holy Spirit cannot make a mistake and there is a fundamental mistake in Vatican Council II and the Catechism(1994).The theological error is carried over into Redemptoris Missio, Dominus Iesus etc.This is theology gone wrong.It is philosophy based on an objective error.The new ecclesiology violates the Principle of Non Contradiction.

 I do not reject Vatican Council II because of the good things in it.Even LG 14, since it refers to a hypothetical case is not an exception to EENS.I do not have to reject it.We do not know anyone in 2017 saved in invincible ignorance within or outside the Church.A  'possibility of salvation outside the Church' does not exist as a real human being for us.So LG 14 is not really an exception to the old exclusivist ecclesiology of the Church for me.However the fact that it is mentioned, means the theologians made a mistake.
Notice how the U.S bishops(USCCB) and liberals support the Catechism(1994).They know it is in line with the Masonic agenda.Cardinal Schonborn approved it.All priests now have to interpret it with the mistake from Vatican Council II. They are not allowed to say like me that LG 14 (invincible ignorance) refers to an invisible case in our reality.
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Have you noticed how Fr.John Zuhlsdorf recommends the Catechism of the Catholic Church,interprets EENS with invisible ignorance being an exception and has good things to say about the Bologna School's interpretation of Vatican Council II, with the same irrational premise(invisible people in Heaven are visible on earth).This is how the National Catholic Reporter and Crux also interpret Vatican Council II and the Catechism.So does Michael Voris, Louie Verrecchio, David Domet and Ann Barnhardt.

WHAT IF FR.ZUHSLDORF AVOIDED THE FALSE PREMISE
What if Fr.Zuhlsdorf interpreted the Catechism and Vatican Council II in line with the strict interpretation of EENS? Ecclesiastical Masonry would not allow it.Most Catholic bishops in Britain would say no.Fr.Zuhlsdorf may say that he does not reject either, the Catechism or Vatican Council II.But the present magisterium would not welcome it.They did not welcome the SSPX General Chapter Statement 2012 which affirmed Feeneyite outside the Churh there is no salvation, with not even the possibility of finding salvation outside.

SACRED TRADITION
Today we still have a guide in Sacred Tradition.There are no more 'three pillars' of the Church.Since the present magisterium is obeying the Masons and globalists and is rejecting Sacred Scripture on exclusive salvation in the Catholic Church(John 3:5, Mark 16:16).So one pillar has fallen. Then Pope Francis  also allows the moral teachings of Jesus preserved over the centuries to be changed.So the pillarScripture has been shaken.However we can still interpret Scripture according to the past magisterium of the Church.
To stay with Sacred Tradition we need the help of the writings of the popes and saints and the old catechisms.We can appreciate the good things in the Catechism of the Catholic Church(1994) by reading the old catechisms.
-Lionel Andrades



NOVEMBER 8, 2017



Books of Archbishop Lefebvre are obsolete now : so are the writings on Vatican Council II by Chris Ferrara and Roberto dei Mattei

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/11/books-of-archbishop-lefebvre-are.html


NOVEMBER 8, 2017



Vatican knows that the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus can be affirmed and interpreted with the rigorist interpretation even after Vatican Council II: but does not recognise this interpretation

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/11/vatican-knows-that-dogma-extra.html



NOVEMBER 8, 2017



Vatican needs to apologise for the excommunication of Fr. Leonard Feeney and Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/11/vatican-cdfecclesia-dei-needs-to.html



NOVEMBER 7, 2017

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Bishop Robert J.McManus and Brother Thomas Augustine interpret Vatican Council II with the 'possibilities are exceptions' error since this was the mistake in Vatican Council II itself(LG 14 etc)

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/11/bishop-robert-jmcmanus-and-brother_7.html



 NOVEMBER 6, 2017



There is a mistake in Redemptoris Missio and Dominus Iesus

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/11/there-is-mistake-in-redemptoris-missio.html


 NOVEMBER 6, 2017



Pope John Paul II and Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger's Redemptoris Missio and Dominus Iesus were written with the 'possibilities are exceptions' error.

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/11/pope-john-paul-ii-and-cardinal-joseph.html



 NOVEMBER 6, 2017



Bishop Robert J.McManus and Brother Thomas Augustine MICM,Superior,St.Benedict Center,Still River,MA, interpret Vatican Council II with the 'possibilites are exceptions' error

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/11/bishop-robert-jmcmanus-and-brother.html



NOVEMBER 5, 2017

SBC on the Air


Worcester traditionalists have compromised on theology and doctrine for canonical recognition?

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/11/worcester-traditionalists-have.html


NOVEMBER 4, 2017

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Theological errors of Fr. Thomas Weinandy

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/11/theological-errors-of-fr-thomas-weinandy.html



NOVEMBER 3, 2017



So that Catholics are not going to know about the deception of the Magisteriuim ?

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/11/so-that-catholics-are-not-going-to-know.html


NOVEMBER 3, 2017



Bishop Fellay is the biggest impediment for the SSPX receiving canonical status

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/11/bishop-fellay-is-biggest-impediment-for.html


NOVEMBER 2, 2017

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Society of St.Pius X (SSPX) is divided on theology and doctrine.There are two groups

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/11/society-of-stpius-x-sspx-is-divided-on.html



NOVEMBER 1, 2017

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While I affirm all magisterial documents like the two popes and cardinals, our interpretation is different : they may not like my conclusion but they cannot show me an error in theology or philosophy

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/11/while-i-affirm-all-magisterial.html



NOVEMBER 1, 2017



Balamand Declaration with Orthodox Christians and Declaration on Justification with Lutherans null and void : wrongly interprets Vatican Council II with a false premise to create a rupture with the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus and the Syllabus of Errors

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/11/balamand-declaration-with-ortodox.html



OCTOBER 31, 2017



Blog page views for today are 10,067 : PADRE PIO SAID THAT MARTIN LUTHER IS IN HELL AND CHRISTIANS WHO FOLLOW HIM WILL MEET THE SAME END- Fr.Stefano Manelli F.I, founder of the Franciscans of the Immaculate

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/10/blog-page-views-for-today-are-10067.html



OCTOBER 31, 2017



SSPX must be aware of the deception of Abp.Guido Pozzo and confront it

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/10/sspx-must-be-aware-of-deception-of.html

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