Repost : Why do you use the words 'visible' and 'invisible' ?: It is because others are using it unknown to them
JUNE 16, 2014
Why do you use the words 'visible' and 'invisible' ?: It is because others are using it unknown to them
Why do you use the words 'visible' and 'invisible' I am asked.
I refer to invisible and visible cases since most people are unaware. They are using the concept 'visible' when talking about Catholic salvation. It is they who first use the irrationality of visible exceptions. So I explain the difference between visible and invisible exceptions.
They tell me that all do not need to enter the Catholic Church but only those who know about Jesus and the Church. In other words those who know and do not know are VISIBLE to us on earth. We know these cases in real life.
Then they say that every one needs to enter the Catholic Church except for those in invincible ignorance and the baptism of desire.In other words these cases are VISIBLE to us in real life. We know cases in 2014 saved with the baptism of desire etc . So they are exceptions to extra ecclesiam nulla salus.
Then they say every one does not need to enter the Church and all who are saved are saved through Jesus and the Church. What has all who are saved, are saved through Jesus and the Church, have to do with the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus?Again it is inferred subtly that there are known cases saved without the baptism of water in other religions. They are VISIBLE to us . So all do not need to enter the Church for salvation.
Whenever someone says there are exceptions he is implying that there are VISIBLE exceptions.
They say Fr.Leonard Feeney was excommunicated for denying the baptism of desire.In other words, he would not accept a VISIBLE baptism of desire.
They say Nostra Aetate 2 is a revolution in the Catholic Church since it contradicts the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus. A person can be saved without the baptism of water and with ' a ray of the Truth' . In other words ' a ray of the Truth' is a VISIBLE exception.If it was not VISIBLE it would obviously not be an exception.
Similarly they say UR 3 has changed the Catholic Church's teachings on ecumenism. Now a Protestant can be saved in 'imperfect communion with the Church'. In other words these cases are VISIBLE in the present times, we can name some one saved in imperfect communion with the Church.
They ask why do you use the VISIBLE and INVISIBLE distinction ?
It is because just about every one is using it and doing so irrationally and unaware of it.-Lionel Andrades