Repost : Hypothetical cases cannot be exceptions to extra ecclesiam nulla salus as it was interpreted over the centuries
JUNE 29, 2014
Hypothetical cases cannot be exceptions to extra ecclesiam nulla salus as it was interpreted over the centuries
Father Feeney, in his The Bread of Life, "more or less" denied Baptism of Desire:
Here is a brief catechism line-up, in case you would like to brush up on what I have been saying:
Q.Can anyone now be saved without Baptism of Water? A.No one can be saved without Baptism of Water.
It is important to define terms here otherwise there is confusion.
No one can be saved without the baptism of water in the present times, 2014, defacto, in real life.
Theoretically, in principle, in faith, hypothetically a person could be saved with the baptism of desire ( followed with the baptism of water) and it would be known only to God.We do not know if there was a single such case in real life.
Q. Are the souls of those who die in the state of justification saved, if they have not received Baptism of Water?
A. No. They are not saved.
The souls of those who die in a state of justification have to receive the baptism of water for salvation.This is a hypothetical case for us so either way (with or without the baptism of water) this case is not known in 2014.So it is not an exception to extra ecclesiam nulla salus.
Q. Where do these souls go if they die in the state of justification but have not received Baptism of Water? A. I do not know.
Neither do I.God would know in each case. It is hoped that God will send a preacher to them and have them baptised. All who are in Heaven are there with Catholic Faith and the baptism of water.
Q. Do they go to Hell? A. No.
Q. Do they go to Heaven? A. No.
In both cases it is only God who can know. Only he can know and judge individual cases.
Q.Are there any such souls? A.I do not know! Neither do you!
Q.What are we to say to those who believe there are such souls? A.We must say to them that they are making reasonprevail over Faith, and the laws of probability over theProvidence of God.
These are hypothetical cases. Hypothetical cases cannot be exceptions to extra ecclesiam nulla salus as it was interpreted over the centuries.