Friday, August 31, 2018

Cover up

Did Pope Francis and the Jesuits and all the traditionalists know that there was a cover up in the Fr Leonard Feeney affair and that invisible baptism of desire never ever was an exception to the traditional, 'strict' interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus ?
Was there a cover up?
 I probably sound like Eccles.
There was a cover up by Roberto dei Mattei.He does not deny it since 2014 or earlier posts on this blog would show us.
There was a cover up at Rorate Caeili and I Peter 5.
This subject was too hot for them.
New Catholic at Rorate Caelil also removed comments after the Jewish Left phoned in.A lady I do not know tried to encourage me and said New Catholic was spineless.
It was too hot for Edward Pentin too. After he interviewed Cardinal Muller and Archbishop Di Noia someone could have told him that this would be enough. There would  not be any more reports on extra ecclesiam nulla salus tolerated by the Left.
Did they warn Cardinal Ratzinger. He called extra ecclesiam nulla salus 'an aphorism' .See the  Catechism of the Catholic Church(846). It was a dogma defined by three Church Councils and supported by numerous saints and not just an aphorism.He interpreted the dogma EENS with irrational Cushingism and someone may have forced him to repeat the lie in the interview with Avvenire ( March 2016).He said EENS was no more like it was for the missionaries in the 16th century. The Magisterium apparently made a mistake in the past.
Then at the  Placuet Deo Press Conference there was a cover up on extra ecclesiam nulla salus.This is the on going cover up and again both the popes have kept silent as they keep silent on the Vigano testimony.
Lumen Gentium 8 was not an exception to EENS as Cardinal Ladaria suggested when asked by an AP correspondent if the Church still held its old understanding on having the superiority and exclusiveness on salvation. He indicated unknown and invisible cases of non Catholics saved with 'elements of sanctification and truth ' in other religions, were visible exceptions to EENS and the past exclusivist ecclesiology.
Every one has kept silent on this issue since March 1,2018.
I am the only one writing about it.
Cover up?
For Michael Voris it is too 'theological' so he will not touch this subject.
Louie Verrecchio has no opinion on this issue either way.
But Pope Benedict knew all along that he was changing doctrine and theology to create a hermeneutic of  rupture with the past. He seemed to be doing it consciously and intelligently.This was a cover up and no ne complained.
Now we here so much about the cover up on the McCarrick issue.
Did McCarrick, Mahoney and Wuerl also cover up this issue ? I think they did. They rejected EENS with an irrational premise, with the New Theology. They replaced Feeneyite theology with the new Cushingite theology.And no one asked them to speak out and be honest.
-Lionel Andrades

Repost : Empirically, objectively there cannot be exceptions. This was the mistake made against Fr.Leonard Feeney

 SEPTEMBER 10, 2014

Empirically, objectively there cannot be exceptions. This was the mistake made against Fr.Leonard Feeney

Fr.R.
Whether a man can be saved without Baptism?
Thomas Aquinas says… (text attached).
 
Lionel:
Dear Fr.R.
Praised be Jesus and Our Lady.
In the attached document Aquinas says every one needs the baptism of water for salvation.
He does not mention any exceptions.
However assuming, for the sake of a discussion, he did say that, you Fr.R. do not know any such case in 2014. So for you there are no defacto exceptions to all needing the baptism of water for salvation in 2014. De facto there can be no exceptions since human beings cannot see the dead- saved.These deceased now in Heaven and not visible on earth cannot be examples of salvation outside the Church.
Empirically, objectively there cannot be exceptions. This was the mistake made against Fr.Leonard Feeney.
In Christ
Lionel
p.s.The following reports are related to your comment.
 
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This is a non traditional ( opposed to Aquinas and Augustine),irrational and heretical ( contradicting the Nicene Creed and the dogma on salvation) statement.

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2014/08/this-is-non-traditional-opposed-to.html#links
 
September 1, 2014

The error is so obvious but yet the priests with whom I have been discussing this issue will not admit what is obvious.Why ?

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2014/09/the-error-is-so-obvious-but-yet-priests.html

And if you said that the Catechism of the Catholic Church and Vatican Council II are Feeneyite could you still be a priest in good standing?

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2014/08/and-if-you-said-that-catechism-of.html

 
August 31, 2014

This is a non traditional ( opposed to Aquinas and Augustine),irrational and heretical ( contradicting the Nicene Creed and the dogma on salvation) statement.

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2014/08/this-is-non-traditional-opposed-to.html

August 30, 2014

The Catechism and Vatican Council II are Feeneyite if you avoid the false premise

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2014/08/the-catechism-and-vatican-council-ii.html

Repost : Roman College University with a new Rector conducts outreach program for the Jewish Left

SEPTEMBER 10, 2014

Roman College University with a new Rector conducts outreach program for the Jewish Left

Liberal Jewish Left professors along with their liberal Catholic counterparts are holding  day long seminars from Sept.29-Oct.2 (Ascolta la voce di Sara!) at the St. John Lateran University.The brochures of the program have been placed in Catholic churches in Rome. The Roman College with a new Rector, is is assisting in these   outreach programs among Catholics, for the Jewish Left.

It is being called a Day of Study with Jewish and Christian professors.Catholics in the parishes are invited.The Enemy has been brought into the church.
 
It is organised by the Catthedra di Popolo di Dio of the St.John Lateran University.
 
Vatican Council II says ' the Church is the new people of God,' (Nostra Aetate 4)  but for the University profesors Jews are still the people of God. If  Catholic professors  did not say that the Jews are still the people of God, the new Rector would be intimidated.
 
The previous Rector had said, in public, that Pope Francis is opposing the teachings of Pope John Paul II and the previous popes.He is now an ex- rector.
 
Since the Vatican is no match for the political and military power of Israel, Catholics accept whatever  changes in Catholic doctrine and teachings are asked of them- so that there may be peace.
 
The Jewish Left which is pro-Satan, with homosexuality,abortion and other such values which they support ,would not go into  an Islamic center with their propaganda, as they are doing presently in Catholic churches in Rome, with the support of the bishops and the pope.
 
The Catholic churches in Rome have been taken over by the present leftist goernment appointed by the Communist President.There are plaques placed on the  front door of Rome's churches, by the Italian Interior Ministry.This is announced on the website of this Government Department. Also the Italian Government approves a committee of lay people to oversee the church. The government has a majority in these lay committees. So what the parish priest/ Rector says or does, is controlled indirectly by the Government.-Lionel Andrades
 
 

Giornate di studio della Cattedra per la Teologia del Popolo di Dio
Ascolta la voce di Sara! (Gen 21:12)
Il ruolo della donna
Prospettive bibliche – riflessione sulle esperienze nell’ebraismo e nel cristianesimo – e problematiche attuali
“Bisogna lavorare di più per fare una profonda teologia della donna.”
Papa Francesco, intervista a “Civiltà Cattolica”
Intervengono
Sig.ra Maria Jaklitsch (Monaco di Baviera)
Sig.ra Ribi Kalifon (Tzuba, Israele)
Dott.ssa Noa Sophie Kohler (Meitar, Israele)
Dott. George Y. Kohler (Meitar, Israele)
Sig.ra Eva Tyrell (Berna, Svizzera)
Prof. Michael P. Maier (Roma)
Prof. Ludwig Weimer (Monaco di Baviera)
Prof. Achim Buckenmaier (Roma)
 
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Segreteria Organizzativa
Pontificia Università Lateranense
Ufficio Eventi
Piazza San Giovanni in Laterano, 4
00120 Città del Vaticano
Tel 06 69895676 – fax 06 69895697
e-mail: eventi@pul.it
http://www.pul.it/2014/09/ascolta-la-voce-di-sara/
http://www.pul.it/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/14-08-25-Depliant-ASCOLTA-LA-VOCE-DI-SARA.pdf

Repost : Two Conferences and an irrational premise.

SEPTEMBER 10, 2014

Two Conferences and an irrational premise.

 The  Catholic Identity Conference and the Call to Holiness Conference will take  place on the same weekend (September 12-14, 2014) and the difference between the two is doctrine- specifically on Church teachings regarding other religions.

The Catholic Identity Conference will hold the traditional teachings on Jews,Muslims and Christians communities.They will interpret Vatican Council II and other magisterial documents with an irrational premise.The speakers will reject Vatican Council II because of it being a break with the infallible teachings of the Church.They will not be aware of the use of the premise.
They will use the same irrational premise in the interpretation of the Letter of the Holy Office  and they will accept this Letter.This is even though the Letter is a break with the traditional interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.

The Call to Holiness Conference will use the same irrationality and accept Vatican Council II(with the premise) and the Letter of the Holy Office 1949.
-Lionel Andrades
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Catholic Identity Conference 2014 flyer
 


Two Catholic Conferences : Both interpret Vatican Council II with an irrational premise.One accepts the Council the other rejects it.

Muller-Fellay Meeting: Cardinal Muller will not accept Vatican Council II without the irrational premise and he wants the SSPX, FFI to use the false premise with the Council and Catechism ?

Repost : Another baptism of desire list in which it is assumed that the deceased are visible to us

AUGUST 18, 2014

Another baptism of desire list in which it is assumed that the deceased are visible to us

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Ambrose on the forum CathInfo says that the Church teaches the baptism of desire and baptism of Blood which he assumes are exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus .If they are exceptions then these cases must be explicit. If they are not seen in real life how can they be exceptions to all needing the baptism of water for salvation.
 
So here is his list. Except for the Holy Office 1949 none of those whom he has mentioned states or infers  that the baptism of desire is explicit for us .Neither is it said that they are exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.
It is Ambrose who assumes that the baptism of desire and blood refer to explicit, visible cases in the present times.He infers it! The text does not mention it!He infers that these cases are explicit exceptions to extra ecclesiam nulla salus. The text does not state this.
 
The Holy Office 1949 assumes that the deceased now in Heaven saved with the baptism of desire are explicit for us.The dead are visible for us! So these deceased are saved outside the Church. So these deceased, the Holy Office inferred are explicit exceptions to the traditional interpretation of Fr.Leonard Feeney.
The SSPX like Cath Info makes the same mistake as Ambrose.
Here is Ambrose's list.

The fact is that the Catholic Church teaches Baptism of Desire and Blood. 

This teaching has been taught by the Church by:

The Council of Trent,
The Catechism of the Council of Trent (St. Pius V),
Many Popes,
The Holy Office,
St. Thomas Aquinas,
St. Bernard of Clairvoux,
St. Bonaventure,
St. Catherine of Sienna (in her dialogues with God),
St. Robert Bellarmine,
St. Alphonus Liguori,
St. Pius X,
Pope Pius XII,
The Code of Canon Law,
All Dogmatic Theologians in the last millennium,
Dozens of approved Pre Vatican II Catechism,
All approved Catholic books published in the last 1,000 years,
And the list can go on.

Do not be tricked by sophistries out of your Catholic Faith. 


Before the Letter of the Holy Office 1949 the catholic Faith did not consider the Baptism of Deisre as an exception to extra ecclesiam nulla salus.How can the deceased be exceptions?
Implicit baptism of desire is not an exception to extra ecclesiam nulla salus. So for instance, St. Catherine of Siena could refer to someone who may have been saved with the baptism of desire or in invincible ignorance and she , at the same time, also believed that all need the baptism of water with no exceptions, for salvation.It is only because Ambrose assumes that the baptism of desire is explicit for us that it becomes an exception for him.
-Lionel Andrades
http://www.cathinfo.com/catholic.php/Lest-Anyone-Think-I-am-Exaggerating-About-These-Heretics

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2014/08/another-baptism-of-desire-list-in-which.html

Repost : I accept the literal interpretation of extra ecclesiam nulla salus according to Fr.Leonard Feeney and endorse an implicit for us and visible only for God baptism of desire

 AUGUST 19, 2014

I accept the literal interpretation of extra ecclesiam nulla salus according to Fr.Leonard Feeney and endorse an implicit for us and visible only for God baptism of desire

Ambrose:
I have said this over and over again. Fr. Feeney was excommunicated for disobedience for not reporting to Rome. But, he was being called to Rome for his doctrinal errors. 
Lionel:
How could affirming the dogma as it was interpreted throughout the centuries be a doctrinal error? Were the popes and saints also wrong?
How can the baptism of desire and being saved in invincible ignorance be considered an exception to the traditional interpretation ? We do not know any such person who is saved in the present times.Can you name someone in 2013-2014? Also no pope or saint says these cases are physically visible to us and so are known exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.
Also to assume that there are known excpetions to the dogma is not only irrational but is also heresy.It is a new doctrine.This was not part of the Deposit of the Faith before 1949.
Ambrose:
The 1949 Holy Office letter specifically corrected St. Benedict Center, and that included Fr. Feeney for their doctrinal error denial of Implicit Baptism of Desire. 
Lionel:
Implicit for us baptism of desire is implicit for us. It is invisible.How can something which is not explicit be relevant or an exception to the literal interpretation of Fr.Leonard Feeney?
Ambrose:
You are of course correct, and I have always said the same, that the original error of denying implicit Baptism of desire grew into a heresy of denying Baptism of Desire in and of itself.
Lionel:
Whether one denies or accepts the baptism of desire, what has this to do with the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus?
Ambrose:
This is what today's Feeneyites are, we are no longer in the 1940's. I do not know of any Feeneyites who hold the original SBC position any longer! as far as I see, they all deny Baptism of Desire, or if not deny it, at least doubt it, which is a grave sin against Faith.
Lionel:
I affirm the traditional interpretation of extra ecclesiam nulla salus. I also affirm the baptism of desire.I accept the literal interpretation of extra ecclesiam nulla salusaccording to Fr.Leonard Feeney and endorse an implicit for us and visible only for God baptism of desire.
For me it does not have to be an either or position.I do not have to choose. I can eat my cake and cut it too! This is possible since the baptism of desire is always, not visible for me.



http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2014/08/i-accept-literal-interpretation-of.html

Repost : I affirm the traditional teaching on religious liberty,other religions and ecumenism, without rejecting Vatican Council II

AUGUST 22, 2014

I affirm the traditional teaching on religious liberty,other religions and ecumenism, without rejecting Vatican Council II

It is said by the Society of St.Pius X (SOS) that Dignitatis Humanae(DH) contradicts the traditional teaching. DH refers to the religious liberty of non Catholics in a state with a secular Constituion and not a Catholic Confessional State. In a Catholic Confessional State of the past it was different.DH is observing a reality in a state with a secular Constituion.
For a Catholic there is no separation of Church and State and DH does not state that there is one.
Jesus is the only Saviour of the world and outside the Church there is no salvation (Ad Gentes 7) .So all political and social laws must have Jesus at its centre.They must be oriented to Jesus according to the traditional teachings of the Catholic Church. 
Other religions are false paths to salvation ( Ad Gentes 7) since outside the Church there is no known salvation in 2014.We do not know any one saved outside the Church and Vatican Council II (AG 7) and the Catechism of the Catholic Church says all need to enter the Church as through a door(CCC 846).The Church is the only Ark of Noah that saves in the flood (CCC 845).
The main issue in Vatican Council II for the SSPX is other religions.When an irrational premise is used in the interpretation then Vatican Council II emerges as a break with the traditional teachings on other religions. 
Bishop Richard Williamson and the SSPX (SOS) priests use this irrational premise. So does Bishop Bernard Fellay and the other SSPX bishops. 
Ad Gentes 7 says all need faith and baptism for salvation. The Christian communities (Protestants etc) do not have Catholic Faith, which include the Sacraments and the faith and moral teachings of the Catholic Church. They need to convert for salvation.
So on other religions and ecumenism Vatican Council II is traditional.
Without the premise Vatican Council II has the hermenutic of continuity and says  all need 'faith and baptism'(AG 7) for salvation.NA 2,UR3,LG16,LG8 etc refer to possibilities known only to God,.They refer to hypothetical cases for us. So they are not known exceptions to Ad Gentes 7( all need faith and baptism).
There is nothing in Vatican Council II to contradict Feeneyism. Vatican Council is Feeneyite without the false premise of the dead being visible exceptions to Tradition. With the visible-dead premise the Council is Cushingite and heretical.The SSPX  is using the Cushingite version of Vatican Council II.This is the version approved by the Jewish Left and the Vatican Curia.This is the version used by Monsgr.Gherardini, Roberto de Mattei, and Fr. Siano and Fr.Lanzetta of the Franciscans of the Immaculate(FFI).
So I can affirm the traditional teaching on other religions, religious liberty and ecumenism, without rejecting Vatican Council II.
The SSPX is rejecting Vatican Council II because Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre has rejected it.
1) He was not aware of Vatican Council II with or without the premise.He was not aware of the premise being the cause of the break with the past.
2) He did not notice the error in the Letter of the Holy Office 1949. He also assumed  that the baptism of desire and being saved in invincible ignorance were visible exceptions to extra ecclesiam nulla salus.The Hindu in Tibet can be saved in his religion, this is true, but we don't know any such case, defacto.He is saved through Jesus and the Church, true, but he is not an explicit case to be an exception to all needing the baptism of water for salvation.
So it must always be clarified,as I mentioned in an earlier post, if one is referring to a Vatican Council II with or without the irrational premise.





Vatican Council II, Ad Gentes 7 indicates most people are on the way to Hell without 'faith and baptism'.
This is what I believe. This is how I interpret Vatican Council II.
Vatican Council II does not say that salvation in Heaven is visible to us.It does not say there is known salvation outside the Church.It does not state that Nostra Aetate 2Unitatis Redintigratio 3, Lumen Gentium 16, Lumen Gentium 8 are exceptions to extra ecclesiam nulla salus.The text does not make this inference.So I do not use the irrational inference in the interpretation of Vatican Council II.
This is how I interpret the Council.
It is in harmony with extra ecclesiam nulla salus, the Syllabus of Errors,the Catechism of Pope Pius X, the Council of Trent and the rest of Tradition.There is no  hermenutic of rupture.
We have found the missing link, the missing piece of the jigsaw puzzle.
We now know what makes Vatican Council II traditional or non traditional.It is: the false premise!.
We need to target the false inference and the theological train will get back on the rails.
Identify the premise and change the Church!
-Lionel Andrades




http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2014/08/i-affirm-traditional-teaching-on.html

Repost : How is Bishop Fellay going to announce that Archbishop Lefebvre made a mistake?

AUGUST 22, 2014

How is Bishop Fellay going to announce that Archbishop Lefebvre made a mistake?

 Bishop Bernard Fellay the Superior General of the Society of St.Pius X (SSPX) should realize by now that Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre their founder, made a doctrinal mistake.
As mentioned in the previous post, the SSPX is rejecting Vatican Council II because Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre has rejected it.
 
a) Archbishop Lefebvre was not aware of Vatican Council II with or without the premise.He was not aware of the premise being the cause of the break with the past.
b) He did not notice the error in the Letter of the Holy Office 1949. He also assumed  that the baptism of desire and being saved in invincible ignorance were visible exceptions to extra ecclesiam nulla salus.
The Hindu in Tibet can be saved in his religion, it is true, but we don't know any such case, defacto.The Hindu in Tibet is saved through Jesus and the Church, true, but he is not physically visible to us in the present times to be an exception to all needing the baptism of water for salvation.A hypothetical case cannot be a defacto, explicit exception.All need to convert into the Church in 2014 for salvation and the Hindu being saved in Tibet is irrelevant.It is a possibility, something theoretical.
 

Archbishop Lefebvre assumed that the baptism of desire was  visible to us and these cases were personally known to be exceptions to the traditional interpretation of the dogma on salvation.Otherwise why did he need to mention it ?.For him it was an exception to extra ecclesiam nulla salus and Feeneyism.He picked up the error of the Letter of the Holy Office 1949.The four SSPX bishops have since repeated the same irrationality.
 
Their founder  then extended the same error to Vatican Council II.It was the Cushingite error. This is the error of the deceased being visible exceptions, to all needing the baptism of water to aviod Hell.Archbishop Cushing and the Jesuits were active in Boston in 1949 and at Vatican Council II.The Jesuit Fr.Karl Rahner  placed the Letter of the Holy Office 1949 in the Denzinger even though it was not inserted in the Act Apostolica Sedis. He used as a reference, an American magazine!
Archbishop Lefebvre assumed that being saved with ' ray of the Truth' (NA 2), imperfect communion with the Church (UR 3) etc referred to visible for us cases.So  for him they were exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus, the Syllabus of Errors and the Catechism of Pope Pius X.
 
He used the same irrational thinking of the Letter of the Holy Office 1949 in the interpretation of Vatican Council II.
Without the Cushingite premise the Council would be traditional but he did not know it.
He was correct in rejecting  the general interpretation of Vatican Council II, with the premise. He was not aware though,that it was the premise which caused a break with the past.
Neither did the magisterium mention this at any time.So one cannot blame him.Even until today , after half a century, no Vatican office has issued  a correction.
 
 
Now, how is Bishop Fellay going to get the SSPX to accept all this ?!! 
-Lionel Andrades 

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Consider a Hindu in Tibet who has no knowledge of the Catholic Church. He lives according to his conscience and to the laws which God has put into his heart. He can be in the state of grace, and if he dies in this state of grace, he will go to heaven.” (The Angelus, “A Talk Heard Round the World,” April, 2006, p. 5.)

Repost : Prof.Roberto de Mattei and the false premise

AUGUST 23, 2014

Prof.Roberto de Mattei and the false premise

http://www.robertodemattei.it/2014/06/28/de-mattei-answers-dissident-leader-of-franciscans-of-the-immaculate/
 


De Mattei answers dissident leader of Franciscans of the Immaculate

Carta_di_identità1-378x278The ultimate criteria of judgment for a Catholic must be the one of the Church: to love and hate what the Church loves and hates: loving the truth in all of its uniqueness and integrity and hating error in all of its multiplicity of expressions. Orthodoxy and heterodoxy remain the final measure of judgment which Christian Reason must be subject to.
Lionel:
The false premise came into the Church in 1949. It is not orthodoxy.

In 1542, Pope Paul II, instituted the Congregation of the Roman Inquisition, afterwards called the Holy Office and nowadays named the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, with the aim of guarding the purity of orthodoxy.
Lionel:
The Holy Office in 1949 overlooked the false premise in the case of Fr.Leonard Feeney.
 In 1571, Saint Pius V, supported it with the Congregation of Index which had the task of indicating all the books deforming correct Catholic Doctrine. In 2002, L’Index Librorum prohibitorum 1600-1966 was published by the Centre d’Études de la Renaissance at Sherbrooke University, and gathers together all of the condemned works until the suppression of the Index, which Paul VI wanted in 1966. From Protestantism to Illuminism, from Catholic liberalism to modernism, there is not one heterodox writer that has not been singled out and condemned for the good of the Church and for the salvation of souls.
Lionel:
It is heresy to state that there are known exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.
The Index established a precious instrument to help Catholics know and detest errors and heresies. The Holy Office was the supreme tribunal which every Catholic could turn to when they had doubts and perplexities in matters of faith and morals. To the Congregation for the Faith, which followed the Holy Office, we owe, in recent years, a number of notifications, such as Dominus Jesus in 2000 or Considerations regarding Proposals to Give Legal Recognition to Homosexual Unions in 2003.

Lionel:
The false premise was overlooked in Vatican Council II as it was in Redemptoris Missio, Dominus Iesus etc.The text was and is interpreted by many with an irrational inference.
After the disturbing declarations by Cardinal Kasper at the Consistory in February 2014, on the theme of the divorced and remarried, and the equally disquieting document Instrumentum laboris, presented on June 26th, in preparation for the upcoming Synod on the Family, it would be right to expect a clarifying statement from the Congregation (today presided over by Cardinal Müller) about the grave problems on the table in matters relating to the family and sexual morality.
Today, however, there is an attempt to substitute orthodoxy with “orthopraxy”.
The international theological publication “Concilium” dedicated its latest number to the theme: From “anathema sit” to “Who am I to judge?” starting with Pope Francis’ famous sentence on homosexuality: “who am I to judge,” pronounced during the return flight from Brazil in July 2013. The authors define orthodoxy as “metaphysical violence”. They retain that the formulas and dogmas cannot comprehend historical evolution, but each problem must be collocated in its historical and socio-political context. The concept of orthodoxy must be surpassed, or at least re-dimensioned, since, it is used as “a point of reference to suffocate freedom of thought and as a weapon to control and punish.” (“Concilium”, 2/2014, p.11). The primacy of doctrine must be substituted by pastoral praxis, as Father Juan Carlos Scannone explains, intervening in support of Cardinal Kasper, in the article, Serene Theology On One’s Knees , found in the “Civiltà Cattolica” of June 7, 2014.
The categories of orthodoxy and heterodoxy are being set aside as antiquated. And new semantic expressions are emerging. One of the most curious is “crypto-lefebvrianism”:
a term that Father Angelo Geiger F.I. recently used on his American site to discredit, not only myself, but also Rorate Caeli, a praiseworthy Catholic site, guilty of having expressed its concern about what is happening to the Franciscans of the Immaculate. For Father Geiger, it is all normal, and whoever places this normality in doubt is a “crypto-lefebvrian”.
Lionel:
Fr.Angelo Geiger uses the false premise in the interpretation of magisterial texts. He does not deny this in correspondence with me.
Who are the “crypto-lefebvrians”? They are those who, in the present state of confusion, even if they are not part of the Fraternity of St. Pius X, look to Catholic Tradition as a point of reference. They are the Catholics that want to stay orthodox and, to do so, they call on the definitive Magisterium of the Church, not less “living” and current than the indirect or non-defining Magisterium of the bishops and Pope presently reigning.

Lionel:
They are also those who use the false premise and are unaware of it.

Father Geiger accuses the Franciscans of the Immaculate faithful to Father Manelli, Rorate Caeli and myself of being against the Pope, the bishops and Vatican II.

Lionel:
It must be noted that Pope Francis and Pope Benedict interpret Vatican Council II with the false premise and accept the Council. The traditionalists also interpret Vatican Council II with the false premise and reject the Council.

 We urge him to read the volume published by his confrere, Father Serafino M. Lanzetta, Vatican II: A pastoral council: Hermeneutic of the conciliar doctrines, Cantagalli, Siena, 2014. This work, conducted under the guidance of Professor Manfred Hauke, earned the author qualifications to teach at the Faculty of Theology in Lugano [Ticino, Switzerland].
Father Lanzetta explains that the teaching of Vatican II is placed on the lines of the Church’s Ordinary Magisterium, without demanding adherence of faith to it. “The most adequate theological qualification on the documents examined by us, salvo meliore iudicio, seems to be that of sententiae teologicae ad fidem pertinentes: questions on which the magisterium has still not pronounced itself definitively, of which negations could lead to placing in danger other truths where truth is guaranteed in its intimate link to Revelation.” (pp. 430-431).
Lionel:
When the false premise is used then there is a denial of the dogma on salvation and other related doctrines.

 The discussion on these theological theses is still free and open. The doctrines given by Vatican II, writes Father Lanzetta, must be read in the light of the perennial Tradition of the Church and the Council can do nothing but join this uninterrupted Tradition. (p.37) “The only thing that can be the guide in our understanding of Vatican II is the entire Tradition of the Church: Vatican II is not the first nor last council in the Church, but a moment in Her history.” (pp. 74-75). “The perennial Traditio Ecclesiae, is, therefore, the first hermeneutical criteria of Vatican II.” (p.75).
Lionel:
Vatican Council II does not contradict tradition when the irrational inference is avoided.

Is Padre Lanzetta, one of the Franciscans of the Immaculate who asked for dispensation to leave the Institute, a “crypto-lefebvrian”? If he is, then the head of the “crypto-lefebvrians” is Benedict XVI who proposed the reading of the Second Vatican Council in the light of Tradition and not Tradition in the light of Vatican II, as the School of Bologna would like it to be.
Lionel:
The School of Bologna is also using the irrational inference.

 Moreover, if Father Geiger wants to set Father Lanzetta against Archbishop Agostino Marchetto,defined by Pope Francis as “the best hermeneut of Vatican II,” 

Lionel:
 “the best hermeneut of Vatican II,” with the false premise.

he should know that Father Lanzetta and Professor de Mattei are part of a group of scholars which includes Archbishop Marchetto and that for more than two years, each with their own theological and historical identity, these have been examining in a constructive manner an in-depth study of the Second Vatican Council, with no mutual demonization

Lionel:
They have been unaware of the false premise.They have picked up the irrational theology of the Letter of the Holy Office 1949.They interpret Vatican Council II with the same theology. -Lionel Andrades

The phrase In necessariis unitas, in dubiis libertas, in omnibus caritas, dear to John XXIII, is rejected by those who use the Novus Ordo Missae and the Second Vatican Council to shut the mouths of the ones who ask questions in the interest of correct Catholic Faith.
Let us urge Father Geiger to substitute the false classifications with good arguments – if he is able to find them. What credits or discredits us before the Truth and Our Lord Jesus Christ, Who is the Way the Truth and the Life (John, 4, 1-6) are not the denominational disputes, but the good use of our reason, which can never be in contradiction to our faith.
To the accusations from the nominalists, we respond with the words of St. Pacian of Barcelona: – Christianus mihi nomen est, catholicus cognomen. [Christian is my name, Catholic my surname.]
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[Translation: Contributor Francesca Romana. Roberto de Mattei, Italian historian and academic, is the author, among many other books, of "The Second Vatican Council: an unwritten story" - for which he won the most prestigious Italian History prize, the Acqui Storia, in 2011. The object of his exemplary admonition above is self-confessedly one of the five Dissident friars who called for the intervention of the Congregation for Religious in their institute, with consequences, including of a liturgical nature, well known by all Catholics who love the Church.]