Repost : A simple observation needs to be made by the Franciscans of the Immaculate and the SSPX : and there will be a breakthrough

JULY 28, 2018

A simple observation needs to be made by the Franciscans of the Immaculate and the SSPX : and there will be a breakthrough

There was a mistake in the Letter of the Holy Office 1949 and then it was repeated in Vatican Council II.The mistake was hypothetical cases were assumed to be non hypothetical. Invisible non Catholics were assumed to be examples of salvation outside the Church. This mistake is being repeated by the Franciscan Sisters of the Immaculate.

Here is how the error works.It can be seen in these graphics.

 Roberto dei Mattei and Fr.Serafino Lanzetta F.I have used this irrational method of interpreting Vatican Council II, the Catechism of the Catholic Church and the Letter of the Holy Office 1949. The Franciscans of the Immaculate followed them.

Until today this same wrong way of interpreting Vatican Council II is normal for the Franciscans of the Immaculate and the Society of St. Pius X(SSPX).

This was the way Vatican Council II was interpreted by the late Fr. Fidenzio Volpi OFM(Cap).He called the Franciscans of the Immaculate 'crypto Lefebvrists'.

Now we know that we do not have to interpret Vatican Council II like the Lefebrists and neither like Fr. Volpi.Both  were using the irrational premise as shown in the graphics above. It was the same mistake made by Roberto

dei Mattei, Fr. Lanzetta and Fr. Stefano Manelli F.I.

Here is an alternative. These graphics show how the interpretation of Vatican Council II changes and becomes traditional.

So Vatican Council II is no more like it is interpreted by the Society of St. Pius X(SSPX) or the Bologna School.They assumed that hypothetical cases were not only hypothetical but objective exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS).

Vatican Council II is now no more like it is being interpreted by Cardinal Braz de Avez and Archbishop Jose Carbello.

So this is the interpretation of Vatican Council II which the Franciscans of the Immaculate and the Society of St. Pius X must adopt and ask the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith(CDF) to also affirm Vatican Council II, without the irrationality.

They simply have to say that there are no objective cases of the baptism of desire, baptism of blood and being saved in invincible ignorance in 2018.Similarly there are no known cases of LG 8, LG 14, LG 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc in the present times. They are all hypothetical cases.

This is all which is required.Make this simple observation as so many others have done.

Archbishop Thomas E.Gullickson says Vatican Council II does not contradict the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus and the Syllabus of Errorshttp://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2012/11/archbishop-thomas-egullickson-says.html#links

DEAN OF THEOLOGY AT ST. ANSELM SAYS THERE ARE NO KNOWN EXCEPTIONS TO THE DOGMA EXTRA ECCLESIAM NULLA SALUShttp://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2013/10/dean-of-theology-at-st-anselm-says.html#links

CANTATE DOMINO, COUNCIL OF FLORENCE ON EXTRA ECCLESIAM NULLA SALUS IS DE FIDE AND NOT CONTRADICTED BY VATICAN COUNCIL II- Fr. Nevus Marcello O.P

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2011/07/cantate-domino-council-of-florence-on.html

BRAZILIAN PRIEST SAYS VATICAN COUNCIL II DOES NOT CONTRADICT DOGMA EXTRA ECCLESIAM NULLA SALUS

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2011/07/brazilian-priest-says-vatican-council.html#links

CATHOLIC PRIESTS IN ROME AGREE WITH FR.LEONARD FEENEY: THERE IS NO BAPTISM OF DESIRE THAT WE CAN KNOW OF  http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2011/08/catholic-priests-in-rome-agree-with.html#links

JUNE 20, 2011

THERE IS NO BAPTISM OF DESIRE THAT WE CAN KNOW OF- Fr.George Puthoor

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2011/06/there-is-no-baptism-of-desire-that-we.html

WE DO NOT KNOW ANYONE SAVED WITH THE BAPTISM OF DESIRE OR INVINCIBLE IGNORANCE SO EVERYONE NEEDS TO ENTER THE CHURCH AS DON BOSCO TAUGHT- Salesian Rector and Parish priest in Rome

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2011/07/we-do-not-know-anyone-saved-with.html

-Lionel Andrades

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JULY 28, 2018

When Vatican Council II is not a rupture with Tradition( EENS, Syllabus of Errors etc) it is an issue for Cardinal Avez and Archbishop Carbello and not the Franciscans of the Immaculate or the Society of St. Pius X(SSPX)

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/07/vatican-council-ii-is-not-rupture-with.html

JULY 28, 2018

Vatican Council II is in harmony with St. Augustine, St.Thomas Aquinas , Pope Boniface VIII etc on outside the Catholic Church there is no salvation

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/07/vatican-council-ii-is-in-harmony-with.html