Saturday, August 11, 2018

Vatican Council II has to be read carefully.Be aware of the error in the text which has come from 1949-Boston.

The moment you say that the baptism of desire(BOD), baptism of blood(BOB) and being saved in invincible ignorance(I.I) are exceptions  to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS) you infer that there are known people for you or someone else, saved outside the Church, saved without the baptism of water and Catholic faith.
In general Catholics make this mistake. Even when they interpret Vatican Council II they infer that LG 8 refer to objective people saved outside the Church.
They read Vatican Council II literally at face value.
Image result for Photo of Louie Verrecchio
Recently on a blog post Louie Verrecchio interpreted Unitatis Redintigratio 3 literally.Bishop Fellay does the same. It can be read on the Internet.
"But Vatican Council II says this ?", could be a response.
It does.
But I interpret it(UR 3) as referring to a hypothetical case.So it is not an exception to an ecumenism of return, outside the Church there is no salvation for non Catholics, inter-faith marriages being adultery,the past exclusivist ecclesiology of the Catholic Church being a reason to proclaim the Social Reign of Christ the King and the non separation of Church and State.
So it is the same text but Louie Verrecchio's reads UR 3 as referring to a  visible and known person while for me it is an unknown person.For Louie it is an exception to EENS, for me it is not.
"So then why did Vatican Council II mention it?", it may be asked.
Since they made a mistake at the Council.
They picked up the error from the Letter of the Holy Office 1949.It assumed hypothetical cases of BOD, BOB and I.I were practical exceptions to Feeneyite EENS. This was false.The Church Fathers and saints did not say this.
They simply mentioned BOD, BOB and I.I in answer to questions. Obviously they are hypothetical cases. This is a given. But they were not hypothetical for the liberal theologians at Boston in the 1940's.
So at Vatican Council II in principle they assumed invincible ignorance(LG 16), the case of the unknown catechumen, (LG 14) etc, were not hypothetical cases.They then extended the list to UR 3, LG 8, NA 2, GS 22 etc.The liberals interpreted them as non hypothetical and objective non Catholics saved outside the Church, without 'faith and baptism'(AG 7).They did not and could not know any such person.
Louie Verrecchio objects to the text of UR 3 suggesting there is salvation outside the Church and for him this is  heresy.Visible- for- him UR 3 results in a heretical conclusion.It  is a rupture with EENS for him.

But not for me.Since I do not make the same mistake as Louie. UR 3 and Vatican Council II is not a rupture with EENS for me. Since I only see a theoretical case.
Vatican Council II has to be read carefully.Be aware of the error in the text  which has come from 1949-Boston.
This is unprecedented.Objective errors have been discovered in Vatican Council II.I am referring not just to theology.Faulty reasoning has created a new theology.There are errors made in principle.As a norm it seeps throughout the Council-text.
In principle the Vatican Council II Fathers assumed hypothetical cases were not hypothetical but objectively visible.
In principle they assumed people in Heaven are objectively visible on earth.
In principle they assumed that we can know of non Catholics on earth saved without the baptism of water in the Catholic Church.
In general, as a norm, the Principle of Non Contradiction was violated.1
-Lionel Andrades



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 DECEMBER 13, 2016

Too many mistakes in Vatican Council II
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2016/12/too-many-mistakes-in-vatican-council-ii.html


Unprecedented! Philosophical mistakes discovered in Vatican Council II

https://gloria.tv/article/eAHi1jMeN3fG1fWPDjpAb6e2o

DECEMBER 15, 2016
Sedevacantist Bishop Donald Sanborn unaware of many philosophical errors in Vatican Council 
eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/…/sedevacantist-b…

DECEMBER 14, 2016

Catholic professors in Rome now tell lies : pontifical universities don't want to be quoted on a philosophical subject

eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/…/there-are-objec…

DECEMBER 13, 2016

PHILOSOPHICAL QUESTIONS FOR A PROFESSOR OF PHILOSOPHY : ASK HIM ABOUT MISTAKES IN VATICAN COUNCIL II

eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/…/philosophical-q…

DECEMBER 13, 2016

Traditionalists too unaware of major philosophical mistake : many errors in Vatican Council II

eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/…/traditionalists…

DECEMBER 13, 2016
Vatican to house two Popes for first time as Benedict returns
Too many mistakes in Vatican Council II

eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/…/too-many-mistak…

DECEMBER 12, 2016

Vatican Council II riddled with philosphical error : two popes in principle support objective error in text

eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/…/vatican-council…

DECEMBER 11, 2016

The source of the present Arian-like heresy throughout the Church today is due to the following points

eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/…/the-source-of-p…
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JULY 27, 2018



Principle of Non Contradiction is violated in the official interpretation of Vatican Council II
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/07/principle-of-non-contradiction-is.html

FEBRUARY 14, 2018

To re- interpret Vatican Council II and switch from Cushingism to Feneeyism as a theology review your understanding of the Letter of the Holy Office 1949 -1
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2018/02/to-reinterpret-vatican-council-ii-and.html

FEBRUARY 14, 2018

To re-interpret Vatican Council II and switch from Cushingism to Feeneyism as a theology review your understanding of the Letter of the Holy Office 1949 - 2
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2018/02/february-19-2015-contents-of-letter-of.html

FEBRUARY 14, 2018



To re-interpret Vatican Council II and switich from Cushingism to Feeneyism as a theology review your understanding of the Letter of the Holy Office 1949 -3

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2018/02/to-re-interpret-vatican-council-ii-and.html

FEBRUARY 14, 2018
To re-interpret Vatican Council II and switch from Cushingism to Feeneyism as a theology review your understanding of the Letter of the Holy Office 1949 -4
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2018/02/june-21-2014-catholic-religious.html

FEBRUARY 15, 2018
To re-interpret Vatican Council II and switch from Cushingism to Feeneyism as a theology review your understanding of the Letter of the Holy Office 1949 -5
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2018/02/to-re-interpret-vatican-council-ii-and_15.html

SEPTEMBER 1, 2017


Catholic professors of philosophy and theology admit the Magisterium made a mistake but do not want to say so in public : Philosophical mistake is also there in the text of Vatican Council II

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2017/09/catholic-professors-of-philosophy-and.html

 JANUARY 4, 2017


Professors of Philosophy at the pontifical universities in Rome are still refusing to answer simple philosophical questions
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2017/01/professors-of-philosophy-at-pontifical.html

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AUGUST 10, 2018


The moment you say that BOD, BOB and I.I are exceptions to EENS you infer that they refer to known people, visible people saved outside the Catholic Church : invisible people cannot be exceptions (Grafics)

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/08/the-moment-you-say-that-bod-bob-and-ii.html


AUGUST 10, 2018


Chris Ferrara, Mons.Clifford Joseph Fenton, Fr. John Hardon, Plinio Corrêa de Oliveira, Michael Davis, Dietrich von Hildebrand, Attila Guimares, Fr. Nicholas Gruner, John Vennari and others did not know about it

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/08/chris-ferrara-monsclifford-joseph.html

AUGUST 9, 2018



Abp.Lefebvre's writings now obsolete. He did not know about Vatican Council II and the baptism of desire without the false premise (Graphics)

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/08/abplefebvres-writings-now-obsolete-he.html


AUGUST 8, 2018



Would the CDF and the traditionalists consider the interpretation of Vatican Council II with visible and known BOD, BOB and I.I as being irrational and non traditional? (Graphics)



http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/08/would-cdf-and-traditionalists-consider.html

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 AUGUST 6, 2018


Doesn't Louie see his heresy somewhere in all this?http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/08/doesnt-louie-see-his-heresy-somewhere.html


Bishop Fellay: A troubling interview


https://akacatholic.com/bishop-fellay-interview/



JULY 31, 2018

AKA Catholic


UR 3 with Cushingism is heretical since it rejects the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.With Feeneyism it is not heretical
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/07/ur-3-with-cushingism-is-heretical-since.html



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