Monday, July 9, 2018

At Vatican Council II the liberal theologians and some of the bishops decided to get rid of it the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus

Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus

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The Latin phrase extra Ecclesiam nulla salus means: "outside the Church there is no salvation". The 1992 Catechism of the Catholic Church explained this as "all salvation comes from Christ the Head through the Church which is his Body."
Lionel: This is a Cushingite line. It tries to accomodate the baptism of desire, baptism of blood and being saved in invincible ignorance.It prudently says all salvation comes from Christ the Head through the Church which is his Body.
It does not directly say every one needs to enter the Church with no known exceptions. This  would be Feeneyite.
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This expression comes from the writings of Saint Cyprian of Carthage, a bishop of the 3rd century
Lionel: It was not just an expression or axiom it was a dogma defined by three Church Councils. At Vatican Council II the liberal theologians decided to get rid of it.
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The axiom is often used as shorthand for the doctrine that the Church is necessary for salvation
Lionel: This still is vague. Membership in the Church is neccessary for salvation was the dogmatic teaching. All need faith and baptism for salvation(AG 7, Vatican Council I)
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It is a dogma in the Catholic Church and the Eastern Orthodox churches in reference to their own communions. It is also held by many historic Protestant Churches. However, Protestants, Catholics and the Orthodox each have a unique ecclesiological understanding of what constitutes the Church. The theological basis for this doctrine is founded on the beliefs that Jesus Christ personally established the one Church; and the Church serves as the means by which the graces won by Christ are communicated to believers.
Lionel: Jesus also said that the baptism of water was necessary for salvation and at that time the baptism of water was given to those who had faith, and were part of the Early Community, the Early Christians, the Early Catholics.
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Kallistos Ware, a Greek Orthodox bishop, has expressed this doctrine as follows:
"Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus. All the categorical strength and point of this aphorism lies in its tautology. Outside the Church there is no salvation, because salvation is the Church" (G. Florovsky, "Sobornost: the Catholicity of the Church", in The Church of God, p. 53). Does it therefore follow that anyone who is not visibly within the Church is necessarily damned? Of course not; still less does it follow that everyone who is visibly within the Church is necessarily saved. As Augustine wisely remarked: "How many sheep there are without, how many wolves within!" (Homilies on John, 45, 12) While there is no division between a "visible" and an "invisible Church", yet there may be members of the Church who are not visibly such, but whose membership is known to God alone. If anyone is saved, he must in some sense be a member of the Church; in what sense, we cannot always say.[4]
Lionel: For centuries the Catholic Church always taught that you can only be a member with faith and the baptism of water and you need to accept the Pope.This still is the teaching after Vatican Council II.
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The Catholic Church also teaches that the doctrine does not mean that everyone who is not visibly within the Church is necessarily damned in case of inculpable ignorance.
Lionel: The Catholic Church has taught just this for centuries. Those who are not visible members of the Church at the time of death are damned.
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Some of the most pertinent Catholic expressions of this doctrine are: the profession of faith of Pope Innocent III (1208), the profession of faith of the Fourth Lateran Council (1215), the bull Unam sanctam of Pope Boniface VIII (1302), and the profession of faith of the Council of Florence (1442).
Lionel : They were all Feeneyite and not Cushingite.
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 The axiom "No salvation outside the Church" has been frequently repeated over the centuries in different terms by the ordinary magisterium.
Lionel: The Present two popes are in a rupture with the dogma EEENS since they use the New Theology, Cushingite theology and have rejected Feeneyism at Vatican Council II which was the real theology of the Church.-Lionel Andrades
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extra_Ecclesiam_nulla_salus


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JULY 9, 2018

EWTN, Jeff Mirus use Cushingism and false reasoning to criticize Fr.Leonard Feeney in the report on the Internet,Tragic Errors of Fr. Leonard Feeney by Fr.William Most
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/07/ewtn-jeff-mirus-uses-cushingism-and.html



JULY 9, 2018

So much Cushingite propaganda on the Internet
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/07/so-much-cushingite-propaganda-on.html



 JULY 8, 2018

Internet links on Fr. Leonard Feeney really condemn him for not using Cushingism as a philosophy and theology
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/07/iinternet-links-on-fr-leonard-feeney.html


JULY 8, 2018

Jesus Died and is Risen to save all who believe in Him, and live his teachings in the Catholic Church, from going to Hell. To go to Heaven we must, in general, enter the Catholic Church with faith and baptism, since outside the Church there is no salvation and for most people in 2018, Jesus' Death and Resurrection will be in vain.Since they will die outside the Church, the only Church he founded
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/07/jesus-died-and-is-risen-to-save-all-who.html

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JULY 8, 2018


German bishops and Vatican hide a secret, tell a lie so stay legal . Unknown to media and judiciary - 4 (Graphics)























-Lionel Andrades

JULY 7, 2018
German bishops and Vatican hide a secret, tell a lie so stay legal . Unknown to media and judiciary -1
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/07/the-german-bishops-and-vatican-are.html

 JULY 7, 2018

German bishops and Vatican hide a secret, tell a lie so stay legal . Unknown to media and judiciary -2
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/07/german-bishops-and-vatican-hide-secret.html

JULY 8, 2018

German bishops and Vatican hide a secret, tell a lie so stay legal . Unknown to media and judiciary -3 (Graphics)
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/07/german-bishops-and-vatican-hide-secret_8.html

JULY 8, 2018

German bishops and Vatican hide a secret, tell a lie so stay legal . Unknown to media and judiciary - 4 (Graphics)

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/07/german-bishops-and-vatican-hide-secret_10.html




EWTN, Jeff Mirus use Cushingism and false reasoning to criticize Fr.Leonard Feeney in the report on the Internet,Tragic Errors of Fr. Leonard Feeney by Fr.William Most

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EWTN and Trinity Communications of Jeff Mirus (Catholic Culture) use Cushingism and false reasoning to criticize Fr.Leonard Feeney in the report on the Internet,Tragic Errors of Fr. Leonard Feeney by Fr.William Most.
EWTN is maligning Fr.Leonard Feeney and the St. Benedict Center in the USA.EWTN is censored by the Jewish Left and so it is not saying that everyone needs faith and baptism(Ad Gentes 7, Vatican Council II) for salvation and Jews, Muslims and other non Catholics do not have it.They are oriented to Hell. The Church says Jews, Muslims and others in general are oriented to Hell.
Instead they repeat irrational Cushingism philosophy and theology and criticize Fr.Leonard Feeney.
This is slander. Since there are no known exceptions to EENS, of the baptism of desire, baptism of blood and being saved in invincible ignorance in 2017-2018. Neither are there any practical exceptions to EENS mentioned in Vatican Council II.
So the report Tragic Errors of Fr. Leonard Feeney by Fr. William Most placed on the Internet by EWTN, uses a false premise and inference to criticize Fr. Leonard Feeney.The same error was made in the Letter of the Holy Office 1949 and also Vatican Council II which are Cushingite.This cannot be magisterial since the Holy Spirit cannot make an objective mistake;  invisible people are not visible.
EWTN needs to clarify that there are no known cases of the baptism of desire, baptism of blood, and being saved in invincible ignorance,in the present times,which would contradict Feeneyite EENS. Also there are no known cases or LG 8, LG 14, LG 16,UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc in 2018 which would contradict Feeneyite EENS.
So Fr. Leonard Feeney was rational and traditional. The Letter of the Holy Spirit1949 was heretical.
Similarly EWTN's many apolgetical programs are Cushingite and so their conclusion is heretical.-Lionel Andrades


http://www.ewtn.com/library/scriptur/feeney.txt



 DECEMBER 19, 2015


'Tragic Errors of Fr.Leonard Feeney' by Fr. William Most is based on the error of Cushingism

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2015/12/tragic-errors-of-frleonard-feeney-by-fr.html

JULY 1, 2016


Tragic Errors of Fr.Leonard Feeney by Fr.William Most is based on assuming hypothetical cases are explicit exceptions to the dogma EENS. This is an objective mistake

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2016/07/tragic-errors-of-frleonard-feeney-by_1.html

AUGUST 9, 2010


FR.LEONARD FEENEY: TRAGIC ERRORS BY JEWISH LEFT, TRINITY COMMUNICATIONS AND FR.WILLIAM MOST

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2010/08/frleonard-feeney-tragic-errors-by.html


EWTN, Jeff Mirus, Fr.William Most's Internet report is an obstacle for the SSPX canonical recognition

https://gloria.tv/article/2AsXdgGVakmUDKWpH69XiZhRM

So much Cushingite propaganda on the Internet

There is so much Cushingite propaganda on the Internet  when you search, 'Fr.Leoanrd Feeney' or 'extra ecclesiam nulla salus'.The reports assume that the baptism of desire, baptism of blood and being saved in invincible ignorance refer to known people saved outside the Church.So they assume that there are known people saved outside the Church and so they criticize Fr.Leaonrd Feeney.
So with this misunderstanding they reject the traditional interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla slaus as it was interpreted over the centuries. They now interpret EENS as having exceptions of BOD, BOB and I.I.This is heresy.
If you say that there are known cases of people saved outside the Church and that EENS is obsolete it still is heresy.
It is also schism with the past popes on EENS.It is a rupture with the saints and the founders of religious communities on EENS.
Here are some examples:


No Salvation Outside the Church | Catholic Answers

https://www.catholic.com/magazine/print-edition/no-salvation-outside-the-church

Dec 1, 2005 - That is what a priest in Boston, FrLeonard Feeney, S.J., began teaching in the 1940s. His bishop and the Vatican tried to convince him that his ...
https://www.thecatholicthing.org/tag/fr-leonard-feeney/

Apr 5, 2017 - Fr. Jeffrey Kirby. » The Problems with “Proven Men”. Fr. Gerald E. Murray. » The Sense of ... FrLeonard Feeney Archives - The Catholic Thing ...

Leonard Feeney and the "Boston Heresy Case" - Patheos

www.patheos.com/blogs/.../2009/02/leonard-feeney-and-the-boston-heresy-case.html

Feb 4, 2009 - This day in 1953 marks the excommunication of Father Leonard Feeney (1897-1978), a Boston-based Jesuit whose views on salvation were at ...
- Lionel Andrades

JULY 8, 2018

Internet links on Fr. Leonard Feeney really condemn him for not using Cushingism as a philosophy and theology

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/07/iinternet-links-on-fr-leonard-feeney.html