When
the priests who offer Holy Mass in Italian and not Latin at Prenestina,
Rome say Lumen Gentium 16 refers to an invisible case in 2024, they affirm the
strict interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nullas salus (EENS). They
indirectly support the Athanasius Creed and the exclusivist ecclesiology of the
Roman Missal of the Middle Ages. The affirm Ad Gentes 7, Vatican Council II
which says all need faith and baptism for salvation. All. So they are saying that
everyone needs to convert into the Catholic Church for salvation from Hell and
there are no exceptions mentioned in Vatican Council II. The Council and the
Catechism of the Catholic Church are in harmony with all the past Catechisms.
So
now at Prenestina, near Termini, Rome, congregations begin to
understand that Vatican Council II, with LG 16 interpreted rationally and
honestly, supports the Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius IX and the Catechism of
Pope Pius X and the rest of Tradition. There is a continuity, with Tradition and
so with Archbishop Carlo Maria Vigano, While there is a rupture with the
liberalism of the schism-trial held recently by the Dicastery for the Doctrine
of the Faith. So there is continuity with Archbishop Vigano while Cardinal
Fernandez has become obsolete.Vatican Council II, irrational, used at the trial has become obsolete.
The
Novus Ordo priests in Rome come back to Tradition. They avoid the
irrational interpretation of Vatican Council II of Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre
and the SSPX bishops and the cardinals and bishops, in general, in
the Synods and the Church at large. - Lionel Andrades
EPTEMBER 29, 2024
Priests and congregations at the Novus Ordo Mass need to petition Card. Fernandez to interpret Vatican Council II rationally in a re-trial of Archbishop Vigano
SEPTEMBER 28, 2024
Priests at Prenestina, Rome say Lumen Gentium 16 refers to an invisible person in 2024. But for the DDF and Pope Francis LG 16 etc are exceptions for the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus and the Athanasius Creed. In other words LG 16 refers to a visible case for it to be an exception. Invisible people cannot be exceptions.
Abridged : DDF Statement on Archbishop Carlo Maria Vigano
IN LAW
10. Code of Canon Law:
a. can. 209 § 1: “The faithful are bound by the obligation always to preserve, even in their manner of acting, communion with the Church.”
can. 750 § 2: “One must also firmly accept and hold firmly also all and every one of those things which are proposed definitively by the Magisterium of the Church concerning the doctrine of faith and morals, that is, those things which are required in order to keep holy and faithfully expound the same deposit of faith; one is therefore opposed to the doctrine of the Catholic Church who rejects the same propositions to be held definitively.
c. can. 751: “There is called heresy, the obstinate denial, after having received baptism, of some truth which is to be believed by divine and catholic faith, or obstinate doubt about it; apostasy, the total repudiation of the Christian faith; schism, the refusal of submission to the Supreme Pontiff or of communion with the members of the Church subject to him.”
https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2024/09/ddf-statement-on-archbishop-carlo-maria.html
SEPTEMBER 28, 2024
Priests at Prenestina, Rome agree that Lumen Gentium 16 refers to an invisible case in 2024: Pope Francis, Cardinal Fernandez and the DDF made a mistake in the Vigano trial
Vatican Council II (irrational) is obsolete. Cardinal Victor Manuel Fernandez must admit it. He used the wrong version of the Council at the schism-trial for Archbishop Vigano. He interpreted the Council like Fr. Sebastian Vazhakhala mc and I in 2003 and not like us in 2024.The 2003 interpretation was also part of the religious formation of Archbishop Carlo Maria Vigano and the Church at large.
Why should any Catholic accept Pope Francis as the pope when he interprets Vatican Council II irrationally as did Fr. Sebastian Vazhakhala and I and priests in general, in 2003 and not rationally as in 2024?
Archbishop Vigano has the right to reject Vatican Council II interpreted irrationally and not rationally by Pope Francis?
He has the right to reject a pope who interprets Vatican Council II and the Creeds and Catechisms, irrationally and not rationally.
Pope Paul VI and the other popes who followed, interpreted Lumen Gentium 16 as a physically visible example of salvation in the present times (1965). But the priests in the Prenestina area of Rome today, all agree that Lumen Gentium 16 refers to an invisible case in 2024. We cannot meet or see a person on earth saved in invincible ignorance. It can only be known to God. Even non Christians and non Catholics agree on this point.
For all of here, in this locality, near Porta Maggiore, LG 16 refers to a hypothetical case only. LG 16, NA 2, GS 22, UR 3 etc in Vatican Council II refer to theoretical cases only. So they cannot be objective exceptions for the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS), the Athanasius Creed and the rest of Tradition. Vatican Council II does not contradict the past exclusivist ecclesiology of the Catholic Church. It is not a break with the missionaries and Magisterium of the 16th century on EENS, the Athanasius Creed and the Councils and Catechisms.
We have continuity with the past.
So there no more is theological support for the liberalism of the German Synod and neither for the liberalism of the trial for of the former Nuncio to the USA.
The 2024 interpretation of Lumen Gentium 16 would also be that of the Islamic organization in Rome, which represents Muslims and is recognized by the Rome Vicariate. All the Missionaries of Charity Sisters at nearby Casilina and Settimo Caeili, Rome would agree with them. - Lionel Andrades
https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2024/09/priests-at-prenestina-rome-agree-that.html
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