Wednesday, March 27, 2024

We are all saying the same thing when Vatican Council II is interpreted rationally : Brother Andre Marie micm, Fr. Georges de Laire and the correspondents of the National Catholic Reporter : All are Feeneyites on EENS

 

We are all saying the same thing when Vatican Council II is interpreted rationally

 








- Lionel Andrades

from The National Catholic Reporter

In that dispute, the Diocese of Manchester had accused the Saint Benedict Center in Richmond, New Hampshire, of violating canon law, according to Todd & Weld. The Saint Benedict Center and its members, who call themselves, Slaves of the Immaculate Heart of Mary, had promoted the position held by their founder, a Jesuit priest named Leonard Feeney, that salvation is only possible through the Catholic Church.

Feeney, who died in 1978, was excommunicated for this view, though he was later reconciled to the church.

The Southern Poverty Law Center also added the center to a list of hate groups in 2007 for its members' antisemitic beliefs.

In 2019, the Diocese of Manchester forbade Catholics from participating in activities with the center and the center from calling itself Catholic because they said that they had warned the group that their position is contrary to Vatican teaching.Right-wing Catholic outlet Church Militant to close in April

https://www.ncronline.org/news/right-wing-catholic-outlet-church-militant-close-april

Tuesday, March 26, 2024

Parents must not allow bishops to bless their children at First Holy Communion and Confirmation unless the bishop and parish priest interpret Vatican Council II rationally and so affirm the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus and the rest of Tradition, which is not contradicted by the Council. The Holy Spirit cannot have the children be taught irrationality whih is also political


Parents must not allow bishops to bless their children at First Holy Communion and Confirmation unless the bishop and parish priest interpret Vatican Council II rationally and so affirm the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus and the rest of Tradition, which is not contradicted by the Council. The Holy Spirit cannot have the children be taught irrationality which is also political.

Presently bishops, priests, religious sisters and catechists, teach children and adults to interpret Vatican Council II irrationally, to avoid the Anti Semitic charge.

Parents must check if the parish priest and bishop are in heresy (visible exceptions of LG 16 contradict the dogma EENS and change the understanding of the Creeds) and schism (rupture with the Magisterium of the 16th century on EENS etc). The bishop will be passing this error on to the child at especially the Novus Ordo Mass but also at other liturgies.

If the parish priest and bishop interpret Vatican Council II irrationally they will be passing on heresy and schism to the First Communicant. Presently this is official and public and no one denies it. The conclusion of Vatican Council II , irrational, is always heretical and schismatic.This is the interpretation of the Dicastery for the Doctrine of the Faith, Vatican and the cardinals and bishops in general.

Parents have the right to ask the bishop and parish priest to publically interpret all Magisterial Documents (Creeds, Councils, and Catechisms etc) rationally and so there is no rupture with de fide teachings and Tradition in general. The interpretation is honest and ethical.

 The political, irrational interpretation of Vatican Council II, which produces an artificial and false rupture with Catholic Tradition  and which is part of the main line Catholic Church, is approved by the Chief Rabbinate of Israel and the U.S State Department.

 However Vatican Council II rational, with Lumen Gentium 16 referring to a hypothetical and physically invisible case in 2024, will take the Church back to Tradition and so would be considered Anti Semitic. Vatican Council II, rational, with LG 8, 14, 1, 5, 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc, referring to non objective cases in the present times, is no more a rupture with the Magisterium and missionaries of the 16th century. There is no break with the ecclesiology of the Roman Missal of that time. There is a return to the old theology of the Roman Missal and traditional ecclesiocentrism. 

The Holy Spirit at the Sacrament of Confirmation cannot ask the child or adult, to interpret Church Documents irrationally to produce new doctrines and a new theology, which says outside the Catholic Church there, is known salvation in the present times and so the dogma EENS is obsolete. 

At the FSSP church in Rome, children being prepared for First Holy Communion and Confirmation must be taught to interpret Vatican Council II rationally, before the bishop is invited to the parish. It would be the same for the Paulist Fathers at the American church of St. Patrick’s’ in Rome. 

It must be the same for priestly ordinations before Cardinal Raymond Burke is invited at the church Santissima Trinita dei Pelligrini, Rome.

At Easter, only those candidates must be accepted into the Catholic Church, who interpret LG 8, 14, 1, 5, 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc, as referring to invisible cases in 2024. This is interpreting the Council rationally. It’s simple.

Today morning I was talking to a Catholic who has finished his theological studies. I told him that over the centuries the Catholic Church was always exclusivist in its theology. He agreed. But added, it was exclusivist until Vatican Council II.

I corrected him. He meant Vatican Council II interpreted irrationally i.e. with Lumen Gentium 16 referring to a physically visible non Catholic saved outside the Church without Catholic faith and the baptism of water. 

There is no such person in our reality.

For me Vatican Council II is not a break with the past ecclesiocentrism of the Church. I am referring to Vatican Council II interpreted rationally. It is important to make the distinction.

Liberals like him, studying at the Gregorian University, Rome, can no more say that Vatican Council II is a break with Tradition and tea<ch this error to children at First Holy Communion and Confirmation.-Lionel Andrades


MARCH 25, 2024

Children at First Holy Communion and Confirmation are not taught to interpret Vatican Council II rationally and so affirm the traditional strict interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus which was the theological basis for proclaiming the Social Reign of Christ the King in all political legislation, the non separation of the Church and State and the necessity of the Government to be Catholic, to save souls from Hell.Catechists avoid the Anti Semitic charge

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2024/03/children-at-first-holy-communion-and.html



MARCH 23, 2024

They are teaching error at First Holy Communion and Confirmation classes to avoid being Anti Semitic

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2024/03/they-are-teaching-error-at-first-holy.html










MARCH 20, 2024



Fr.Georges de Laire, the Judicial Vicar, in the diocese of Manchester in New Hampshire, USA escapes : no Decree issued against him. He issued a Decree against the St.Benedict Center

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2024/03/frgeorges-de-laire-judicial-vicar-in_20.html



MARCH 15, 2024



In the diocese of Manchester in New Hampshire, USA everyone is interpreting Vatican Council II irrationally to avoid affirming extra ecclesiam nulla salus like Brother Andre Marie micm, Prior, Slaves of the Immaculate Heart of Mary, at the St.Benedict Center, Richmond, New Hampshire.

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2024/03/in-diocese-of-manchester-in-new.html


MARCH 15, 2024



Bishop Libasci and Fr. Georges de Laire interpret Vatican Council II with the Fake and not Rational Premise.If they used the Rational Premise it would mean that they affirm the same interpretation of EENS as Brother Andre Marie micm and the St. Benedict Center.

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2024/03/bishop-libasci-and-fr-georges-de-laire.html



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MARCH 16, 2024

We are all saying the same thing when Vatican Council II is interpreted rationally

 








- Lionel Andrades

 OCTOBER 18, 2023

Don Paolo Boumis, Parroco, presso la chiesa di San Agapito a Roma accetta il Catechismo della Chiesa Cattolica che dice che fuori della Chiesa non c'è salvezza (CCC 846), mentre LG 8,14,15,16,UR3,NA 2 , GS 22 ecc. nel Concilio Vaticano II non sono eccezioni oggettive per CCC 846 e per il dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS) del Concilio Lateranense IV (1215), che non menzionava alcuna eccezione.


Don Paolo Boumis, Parroco, presso la chiesa di San Agapito a Roma accetta il Catechismo della Chiesa Cattolica che dice che fuori della Chiesa non c'è salvezza (CCC 846), mentre LG 8,14,15,16,UR3,NA 2 , GS 22 ecc. nel Concilio Vaticano II non sono eccezioni oggettive per CCC 846 e per il dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS) del Concilio Lateranense IV (1215), che non menzionava alcuna eccezione. 

Don Paolo Boumis, Parroco, presso la chiesa di San Agapito a Roma accetta il Catechismo della Chiesa Cattolica che dice che fuori della Chiesa non c'è salvezza (CCC 846), mentre LG 8,14,15,16,UR3,NA 2 , GS 22 ecc. nel Concilio Vaticano II non sono eccezioni oggettive per CCC 846 e per il dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS) del Concilio Lateranense IV (1215), che non menzionava alcuna eccezione. Quindi sta affermando l'insegnamento tradizionale secondo cui fuori dalla Chiesa non c'è salvezza, proprio come me. Entrambi stiamo dicendo la stessa cosa.

 Se a Papa Francesco e ai cardinali venisse chiesto se LG 8,14,15,16,UR 3, NA ,2 GS 22 ecc. si riferiscono a casi invisibili nel 2023, anche loro direbbero SÌ, come Don Boumis, i Missionari della Carità di Madre Teresa, il Cardinale Vicario Generale e i Vescovi Ausiliari di Roma. Siamo tutti d'accordo.


Quindi, quando tutti fanno riferimento a 

extra ecclesiam nulla salus è un riferimento
al Concilio Vaticano II. Ad Gentes 7,  dice
che tutti hanno bisogno della fede e del 
battesimo per la salvezza. Quando fanno 
riferimento al dogma EENS si riferiscono
anche al Catechismo della Chiesa Cattolica.
- Lionel Andrades

 OCTOBER 18, 2023

Father Paolo Boumis, Parish Priest, at the church San Agapito in Rome accepts the Catechism of the Catholic Church which says outside the Church there is no salvation (CCC 846), while LG 8,14,15,16,UR3,NA 2, GS 22 etc in Vatican Council II are not objective exceptions for CCC 846 and the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS) of the Fourth Lateran Council (1215), which did not mention any exceptions.

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2023/10/frpaolo-boumis-parish-priest-at-church.html


https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2023/10/don-paolo-boumis-parroco-presso-la.html

JANUARY 30, 2024

Morally we only have the rational option. So this would be the only interpretation of the Auxiliary Bishops of Rome and the religious communities. Annual, renewal of vows will have its foundation only on Vatican Council II interpreted ethically.

 

Fr. Paolo Boumis the Parish Priest at Sant Agapito, Largo Preneste, near Termini, Rome, his assistant priests and the rest of the parish have only one option now. They have to interpret LG 8,14,15,16 etc rationally. So the approved Catechists in the parish would be dishonest if future catechesis was based upon Vatican Council II interpreted irrationally. They cannot continue to interpret LG 8, 14, 15, 16 etc, as being visible people in the present times saved outside the Catholic Church.

Morally we only have the rational option. So this would be the only interpretation of the Auxiliary Bishops of Rome and the religious communities. Annual, renewal of vows will have its foundation only on Vatican Council II interpreted ethically.

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2024/01/the-parish-priest-has-to-tell-his.html


OCTOBER 19, 2023

Father Paolo Boumis, Parish Priest, of the Church of St. Agapito, near Largo Preneste-Porta Maggiore, Rome, holds the strict interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS). He is a Feeneyite on EENS just like me.

 Father Paolo Boumis. Parish Priest, of the Church of St. Agapito, near Largo Preneste-Porta Maggiore, Rome, holds the strict interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS). He is a Feeneyite on EENS just like me. He also interprets Vatican Council II rationally in harmony with EENS according to the Fourth Lateran Council (1215) which did not mention any exceptions. He also interprets the Catechism of the Catholic Church in synchrony with the past Catechisms and other Magisterial Documents. It is the same for the Missionaries of Charity of Mother Teresa, Rome and the Vicar General and Auxiliary Bishops of the Rome Vicariate.This is possible since they all agree that LG 8, 14, 15, 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc, refer to invisible cases in 2023. They are always hypothetical cases and so they cannot be practical exceptions for the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus, in the present times. So their theology becomes traditional when they interpret LG 8, 14, 15, 16 etc rationally, i.e invisible people are physically invisible.They return to the past exclusivist ecclesiology and the traditional interpretation of EENS.

Though - many of the above names are denying the Faith in public.They do not affirm the strict interpretation of EENS in public. They suggest that there are exceptions for the dogma EENS, in other words that LG 8,14, 15, 16 refer to physically visible non Catholics, who are practical exceptions for the dogma EENS.This is dishonest.Suggesting that invisible cases of LG 8, 14, 15, 16 etc are visible is unethical.I call this CushingismCushingism is heretical, irrational, schismatic and non traditional.

 Before Muslims, they present themselves as Cushingites and not Feeneyites. However technically, in private, they are Feeneyites when they interpret Vatican Council II etc rationally, i.e invisible cases of LG 8,14, 16 etc, are invisible in 2023-Lionel Andrades



OCTOBER 18, 2023

Father Paolo Boumis, Parish Priest, at the church San Agapito in Rome accepts the Catechism of the Catholic Church which says outside the Church there is no salvation (CCC 846), while LG 8,14,15,16,UR3,NA 2, GS 22 etc in Vatican Council II are not objective exceptions for CCC 846 and the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS) of the Fourth Lateran Council (1215), which did not mention any exceptions.

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2023/10/frpaolo-boumis-parish-priest-at-church.html


OCTOBER 12, 2023

Fr.Paolo Boumis, Parish Priest, Sant Agapito, Rome, the Missionaries of Charity (Men) of Mother Teresa and the Vicar General Cardinal Angelo Donatis and his Auxiliary Bishops in Rome, agree with me: there are no visible cases of non Catholics saved in invincible ignorance and the baptism of water in 2023

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2023/10/frpaolo-boumis-parish-priest-sant.html


OCTOBER 10, 2023

For Father Paulo Boumis there are no physically visible cases of the baptism of desire and being saved in invincible ignorance but he will continue to have adult catechesis today in which he will interpret BOD and I.I as being physically visible non Catholics saved outside the Church, in the present times, who are practical exceptions for the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2023/10/for-father-paulo-boumis-there-are-no_10.html

OCTOBER 7, 2023



For Fr.Paolo Boumis there are no visible cases in 2023 of a non Catholic saved with the baptism of desire or invincible ignorance and this would also be the view of the priests and lay religious in the parish and also his bishop: It would be the same with the Auxiliary Bishops of Rome and the Vicar General Cardinal Angelo Donatis

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2023/10/frpaolo-boumis-has-confirmed-that-there.html


OCTOBER 1, 2023



Future popes and cardinals will only be conservative since Vatican Councl II can only be interpreted rationally. This is the only moral choice there is.The Council is then traditional and Feeneyite

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2023/10/future-popes-and-cardinals-will-only-be.html

OCTOBER 1, 2023



So at the next Conclave of Cardinals to elect a pope it must be understand that Vatican Council II can only be interpreted rationally and like the Catechism of the Catholic Church of Pope John Paul II, it is traditional and Feeneyite.

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2023/10/so-at-next-conclave-of-cardinals-to.html

THURSDAY, OCTOBER 19, 2023

Father Paolo Boumis, Parish Priest, of the Church of St. Agapito, near Largo Preneste-Porta Maggiore, Rome, holds the strict interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS). He is a Feeneyite on EENS just like me.

 Father Paolo Boumis. Parish Priest, of the Church of St. Agapito, near Largo Preneste-Porta Maggiore, Rome, holds the strict interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS). He is a Feeneyite on EENS just like me. He also interprets Vatican Council II rationally in harmony with EENS according to the Fourth Lateran Council (1215) which did not mention any exceptions. He also interprets the Catechism of the Catholic Church in synchrony with the past Catechisms and other Magisterial Documents. It is the same for the Missionaries of Charity of Mother Teresa, Rome and the Vicar General and Auxiliary Bishops of the Rome Vicariate.This is possible since they all agree that LG 8, 14, 15, 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc, refer to invisible cases in 2023. They are always hypothetical cases and so they cannot be practical exceptions for the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus, in the present times. So their theology becomes traditional when they interpret LG 8, 14, 15, 16 etc rationally, i.e invisible people are physically invisible.They return to the past exclusivist ecclesiology and the traditional interpretation of EENS.

Though - many of the above names are denying the Faith in public.They do not affirm the strict interpretation of EENS in public. They suggest that there are exceptions for the dogma EENS, in other words that LG 8,14, 15, 16 refer to physically visible non Catholics, who are practical exceptions for the dogma EENS.This is dishonest.Suggesting that invisible cases of LG 8, 14, 15, 16 etc are visible is unethical.I call this CushingismCushingism is heretical, irrational, schismatic and non traditional.

 Before Muslims, they present themselves as Cushingites and not Feeneyites. However technically, in private, they are Feeneyites when they interpret Vatican Council II etc rationally, i.e invisible cases of LG 8,14, 16 etc, are invisible in 2023-Lionel Andrades



OCTOBER 18, 2023

Father Paolo Boumis, Parish Priest, at the church San Agapito in Rome accepts the Catechism of the Catholic Church which says outside the Church there is no salvation (CCC 846), while LG 8,14,15,16,UR3,NA 2, GS 22 etc in Vatican Council II are not objective exceptions for CCC 846 and the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS) of the Fourth Lateran Council (1215), which did not mention any exceptions.

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2023/10/frpaolo-boumis-parish-priest-at-church.html


OCTOBER 12, 2023

Fr.Paolo Boumis, Parish Priest, Sant Agapito, Rome, the Missionaries of Charity (Men) of Mother Teresa and the Vicar General Cardinal Angelo Donatis and his Auxiliary Bishops in Rome, agree with me: there are no visible cases of non Catholics saved in invincible ignorance and the baptism of water in 2023

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2023/10/frpaolo-boumis-parish-priest-sant.html


OCTOBER 10, 2023

For Father Paulo Boumis there are no physically visible cases of the baptism of desire and being saved in invincible ignorance but he will continue to have adult catechesis today in which he will interpret BOD and I.I as being physically visible non Catholics saved outside the Church, in the present times, who are practical exceptions for the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2023/10/for-father-paulo-boumis-there-are-no_10.html

OCTOBER 7, 2023



For Fr.Paolo Boumis there are no visible cases in 2023 of a non Catholic saved with the baptism of desire or invincible ignorance and this would also be the view of the priests and lay religious in the parish and also his bishop: It would be the same with the Auxiliary Bishops of Rome and the Vicar General Cardinal Angelo Donatis

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2023/10/frpaolo-boumis-has-confirmed-that-there.html


OCTOBER 1, 2023



Future popes and cardinals will only be conservative since Vatican Councl II can only be interpreted rationally. This is the only moral choice there is.The Council is then traditional and Feeneyite

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2023/10/future-popes-and-cardinals-will-only-be.html

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