Catholic priests who offer Holy Mass in the vernacular and those who offer the Traditonal Latin Mass (TLM), now know there are no known exceptions in Vatican Council II to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.
In the past traditionalists who offered the Traditional Latin Mass affirmed the dogma on exclusive salvation and rejected Vatican Council II. Those who offered the Novus Ordo Mass, in general, with some exceptions, affirmed Vatican Council II (with the dead-saved and visible theory) and rejected the dogma on exclusive salvation.
Like Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre, Michael Davis, the SSPX bishops and priests,they assumed there are known exceptions to the dogma in Vatican Council II (UR 3, LG 8, LG 16, NA 2 etc).
Now preists who offer Holy Mass in the vernacular can affirm extra ecclesiam nulla salus according to St. Robert Bellarmine, St. Francis Xavier, St. Ignatius of Loyola, St, Francis of Assisi etc. Vatican Council II is in perfect agreement with St.Robert Bellarmine on other religions and ecumenism.
Without the Lefebvre mistake of being able to see the dead-saved with the naked eye, the Novus Ordo Mass and the Traditional Latin Mass has the same 'ideology'.
It is the ideology not approved by Pope Francis.(1)
Avoiding the Lefebvre mistake, the priest who offers Holy Mass in Boston, for example, knows Jews need to convert for salvation according to Ad Gentes 7 and Lumen Gentium 14 and there are no known exceptions.This is not the Good Friday Prayer for the Conversion of the Jews in the Tridentine Rite Mass. This is Vatican Council II!
So, without the Lefebvre error, when Archbishop Arthur Roche,the Secretary of the Congregation for Divine Worship,Vatican offers Holy Mass in English or Italian he indicates that he affirms the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus and Ad Gentes 7 which supports the dogma.This is the ecclesiology of Vatican Council II.
So for Archbishop Roche there cannot be a hermeneutic of discontinuity with the past (2) unless he assumes we can see the deceased in Heaven saved in invincible ignorance (LG 16 ) etc, who are known exceptions to Tradition, producing a hermeneutic of discontinuity.Without this irrationality, there is only a hermeneutic of continuity.
-Lionel Andrades
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“Vatican II was a re-reading of the Gospel in light of contemporary culture,” says the pope. “Vatican II produced a renewal movement that simply comes from the same Gospel. Its fruits are enormous. Just recall the liturgy. The work of liturgical reform has been a service to the people as a re-reading of the Gospel from a concrete historical situation. Yes, there are hermeneutics of continuity and discontinuity, but one thing is clear: the dynamic of reading the Gospel, actualizing its message for today—which was typical of Vatican II—is absolutely irreversible. Then there are particular issues, like the liturgy according to the Vetus Ordo. I think the decision of Pope Benedict [his decision of July 7, 2007, to allow a wider use of the Tridentine Mass] was prudent and motivated by the desire to help people who have this sensitivity. What is worrying, though, is the risk of the ideologization of the Vetus Ordo, its exploitation.”(emphasis added)http://rorate-caeli.blogspot.com/2013/09/the-popes-interview-to-civilta.html
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Yes, there are hermeneutics of continuity and discontinuity, but one thing is clear: the dynamic of reading the Gospel, actualizing its message for today—which was typical of Vatican II—is absolutely irreversible.-Pope Francis