Friday, December 25, 2015

Ave Maria! Franciscan Friars of the Immaculate : no more lies in the Jubilee Year of Mercy

Ave Maria! Wishing all our dearest family and friends a Christmas full of grace! May the Mother of Jesus make our hearts like hers to give a warm and loving place of our little Lord Jesus. God bless you all!



The Franciscan Friars of the Immaculate seminarians and students (philosophy and theology) made their pilgrimage to the Holy Door of Mercy in St. Peter's Basilica. 
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The Franciscan Friars of the Immaculate seminarians and students most of whom live at Santa Maria di Nazareth, Boccea,Rome interpret Vatican Council II with the theology of Cushingism instead of traditional Feeneyism.(They are my neighbours. I live nearby. This is my parish.)

WITH CUSHINGISM
So with Cushingism, Lumen Gentium 16 ( being saved in invincible ignorance) refers to an explicit case in 2015 the Year of Mercy.And since it is an objective case, it is an exception to all needing to formally enter the Church for salvation.Objective exception?! It is an exception to all needing to be  'card carrying members' of the Church;  all needing  faith and baptism to avoid Hell.
If these students and their superiors (also seen in the picture) would interpret Vatican Council II with the theology of Feeneyism instead of irrational Cushingism, then there would be a different Vatican Council II, it would be traditional.

WITH FEENEYISM
With Feeneyism Lumen Gentium 16 ( being saved in invincible ignorance) would refer to an invisible case, in the 2015 the Year of Mercy, and since it is not an objective case, since it is not explicit, it is not an exception to all needing to formally enter the Church for salvation.No objective exception! It is not an exception to all needing to be card carrying members of the Chruch, all needing faith and baptism to avold Hell.Vatican Council II would be traditional and in harmony with the stict interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.
But the students and their superiors are not allowed to interpret Vatican Council II with Feeneyism instead of Cushingism.Rome will not allow it.
Even the students and seminarians who stayed at this seminary, before the pontificate of Pope Francis, when the Tradtional Latin Mass  was offered would interpret Vatican Council II and the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus and other magisterial documents, with Cushingism instead of Feeneyism .So did their superiors.
So they would offer the Latin Mass but  would change Catholic doctrine with irrational Cushingism and believe they were faithful to the teachings of the Church.
Nothing has changed, except for the Mass- it is now only in Italian.
There is anger against the Traditional Latin Mass since it is believed it reflects the old ecclesiology, the strict interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus which none of them want to affirm for practical and expedient reasons.It is not politically accepted within and outside the Church.It is not good for the 'career'.
But the problem really is not with the Mass as they beleive, but with the theology they use.It is the theology which creates a break with the past, a break with Tradition, a break with the old ecclesiology of the Latin Mass. It is a break with the Mass of All Ages, a break with the saints and a break with the original Catholic Church.
Change the theology and you change the Church.One could also say identify the  wrong theology and you get back to the old Church.
Today the Franciscans of the Immaculate , a community I love, is divided and broken. And they think it is because of the Mass. Pope Francis thinks it is because of the Mass. For him the Mass is ideological.
This  is because Pope Francis like the Franciscans of the Immaculate do not realize that it is  THE THEOLOGY which creates the IDEALOGY.It is not the Mass. I repeat it is not the Mass.
One can use Feeneyism with the old or new Mass.
One can use Cushingism with the old or new Mass.
I am a Feeneyite. I go for the new Mass and also for the old Mass, when it is available. My ecclesiology is constant.I affirm the old ecclessiology even if Mass is in English or Italian.Pope Francis will not like my ideology even when I attend the Novus Ordo Mass. The one world religion people, the Jewish Left will not like my ideology even when I attend Mass in Italian.
This is important for all traditionalists to realize. You can affirm Vatican Council II with Feeneyism and ask the Franciscans of the Immaculate  Superiors and Pope Francis and his Curia to do the same. Ask them to affirm Vatican Council II with Feeneyism. Ask them to have the students and seminarians of the Franciscans of the Immaculate now being  taught at the Pontifical Universities in Rome, at the Angelicum and Anthonianum, to interpret  Vatican Council II with traditional and rational, Feeneyism.
Cushingism is irrational and a lie. 
It is not Catholic to promote a lie for worldly and false reasons.It is time for the seminarians themself to break free from this lie.
-Lionel Andrades















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2 comments:

Fr PJM said...

It is never allowed for a priest, or indeed any member of the Faithful, to say: "You don't need to be baptized."

There are no exceptions, no "dispensations".

But if a person, say a Jew, dies, *apparently* without baptism, I do not claim to know their fate. Only God knows what he might or might not have invisibly accomplished in their souls. Maybe an angel baptized him.

I pray for the repose of his soul.

What do you think?

Catholic Mission said...


Dear Fr.PJM

The Jew,Muslim or other non Catholic is on the way to Hell without 'faith and baptism' (AG 7, LG 14 Vatican Council II). This is the norm. This is objective reality.
This is the dogmatic teaching extra ecclesiam nulla salus ( Cantate Dominio, Council of Florence 1441).It is based on Jesus' teachings ( John 3:5, Mark 16:16).
This is the teaching of the Holy Spirit guiding the magisterium of the Church.
If there is a Jew or other non Catholic in 2015-2016 who is going to be saved without the baptism of water in the Catholic Church, you would not be able to judge. Neither would I.
So I agree with you when you say there are no exceptions.We cannot tell any one he does not need to be baptised.
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But if a person, say a Jew, dies, *apparently* without baptism, I do not claim to know their fate.
Lionel:
Based on the teachings of the Church, guided by the Holy Spirit I can say he was oriented to the fires of Hell.
I personally would not know but I know that the Church knows the Truth.
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Only God knows what he might or might not have invisibly accomplished in their souls. Maybe an angel baptized him.

Lionel:
If an angel baptised him it would only be known to God.It would be unknown to us.I cannot say that any specific person on earth is going to be baptised by an angel. So there is no case on earth which would be an exception to the norm.Objective reality has not changed.
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I pray for the repose of his soul.

What do you think?

Lionel:
We pray that they may all enter the Church with 'faith and baptism' before they die. After they die they are oriented to Hell. All of them.
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