" Difference of prudence and judgement? Absolutely yes to that one! "Agreed, but the crisis we now witness lies precisely in the realm of prudence and judgment, there being no "official" change of doctrine or dogma.
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Lionel: Yes there has been a change of doctrine and
dogma.
In the Letter of the Holy Office 1949 it was assumed
hypothetical cases were explicit, they were objectively
seen. Then it was inferred that these 'objectively
seen' cases in Heaven were known exceptions to
the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus , as it was
known over the centuries.
dogma.
In the Letter of the Holy Office 1949 it was assumed
hypothetical cases were explicit, they were objectively
seen. Then it was inferred that these 'objectively
seen' cases in Heaven were known exceptions to
the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus , as it was
known over the centuries.
This was the theology of Cushingism.
Then retrospectively every pope or cardinal
who referred to the baptism of desire or blood or
being saved in invincible ignorance, it was inferred,
was speaking of objectively visible cases.
who referred to the baptism of desire or blood or
being saved in invincible ignorance, it was inferred,
was speaking of objectively visible cases.
So the dogma EENS was interpreted as having
exceptions ( the baptism of desire etc) and so not
every one needed to be a 'card carrying member'
of the Catholic Church.
exceptions ( the baptism of desire etc) and so not
every one needed to be a 'card carrying member'
of the Catholic Church.
So doctrine was changed. This change in doctrine
was placed in Vatican Counci II(LG 14). The new
doctrine states not every one needs to enter
the Church for salvation, as it was taught over
centuries, but only those 'who know' about Jesus
and the Church, those who were not in invincible
ignorance, and who of course, were 'known cases'
and they could be saved.
was placed in Vatican Counci II(LG 14). The new
doctrine states not every one needs to enter
the Church for salvation, as it was taught over
centuries, but only those 'who know' about Jesus
and the Church, those who were not in invincible
ignorance, and who of course, were 'known cases'
and they could be saved.
The change in doctrine is there when about
every one interprets Vatican Council II (LG 16)
as referring to explicit cases, which are exceptions
to the EENS as it was known in the 16th century.
every one interprets Vatican Council II (LG 16)
as referring to explicit cases, which are exceptions
to the EENS as it was known in the 16th century.
So we have a change in doctrine and dogma, by
the Vatican Curia and the traditionalists,
including the SSPX.
the Vatican Curia and the traditionalists,
including the SSPX.
There was an official change in doctrine and
dogma in 1949 and it has been expressed
officially in Vatican Council II (LG 16, LG 8,
NA 2, UR 3,etc)
dogma in 1949 and it has been expressed
officially in Vatican Council II (LG 16, LG 8,
NA 2, UR 3,etc)
-Lionel Andrades
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