Granted, the Vatican recognizing the SSPX as genuinely Catholic is simply a matter of justice, for the SSPX is faithful to all that the Church has taught and practiced throughout the centuries including the inconvenient truths of Pius IX’s Syllabus of Errors, Pius XI’s Quas Primas and other counter-revolutionary Papal texts.-John Vennari
Lionel:
False the SSPX is not faithful to the Syllabus of Errors.Since theologically, for the SSPX bishops and many priests , there are exceptions to the Syllabus of Errors.
15. Every man is free to embrace and profess that religion which, guided by
the light of reason, he shall consider true.—Allocution "Maxima quidem," June 9,
1862; Damnatio "Multiplices inter," June 10, 1851.Syllabus of Errors
Lionel:
For the SSPX bishops and many priests, the baptism of desire and blood and being saved in invincible ignorance, all without the baptism of water in the Catholic Church, refer to explicit cases in 2106.So these objective cases are exceptions to all needing to formally enter the Church.There is salvation outside the Church for the SSPX. A non Catholic can be saved in his religion through Jesus and the Church.He would not have to convert formally into the Church. This is the position of the SSPX and the liberals. This is the new theology approved by Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger as Prefect of the Congregation for Doctrine of the Faith,Vatican.So this is a variation on N.15 of the Syllabus. The confusion is there since for SSPX priests Feeneyism is rejected since Archbishop Lefebvre accepted the Letter of the Holy Office 1949 to the Archbishop of Boston.
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16. Man may, in the observance of any religion whatever, find the way of
eternal salvation, and arrive at eternal salvation.—Encyclical "Qui pluribus,"
Nov. 9, 1846.Syllabus of Errors
Lionel:
For the SSPX, hypothetical cases can be known exceptions to extra ecclesiam nulla salus ( Letter of the Holy Office 1949, Second Part).So thoeretically, theologically, for the SSPX there is known salvation outside the Church. The SSPX like the Left, assumes there could be someone saved outside the Church, in another religion.So 'man, may in the observance of any religion whatever', 'find the way of eternal salvation and arrive at eternal salvation' for the SSPX, by having the baptism of desire or blood without the baptism of water, by being saved in invincible ignorance , also without the baptism of water, or, following his good conscience while in another religion.
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17. Good hope at least is to be entertained of the eternal salvation of all
those who are not at all in the true Church of Christ.—Encyclical "Quanto
conficiamur," Aug. 10, 1863, etc.
Lionel:
There is 'good hope', for the SSPX , 'of the eternal salvation of all those who are not at all in the true Church for Christ' since if they were saved with the baptism of desire without the baptism of water in the Catholic Church, they are exceptions.
For the Letter of the Holy Office 1949 the baptism of desire etc was an exception to traditional extra ecclesiam nulla salus.
For the Letter of the Holy Office 1949 the baptism of desire etc was an exception to traditional extra ecclesiam nulla salus.
-Lionel Andrades
https://www.ewtn.com/library/PAPALDOC/P9SYLL.HTMIII. INDIFFERENTISM, LATITUDINARIANISM
15. Every man is free to embrace and profess that religion which, guided by the light of reason, he shall consider true.—Allocution "Maxima quidem," June 9, 1862; Damnatio "Multiplices inter," June 10, 1851.
16. Man may, in the observance of any religion whatever, find the way of eternal salvation, and arrive at eternal salvation.—Encyclical "Qui pluribus," Nov. 9, 1846.
17. Good hope at least is to be entertained of the eternal salvation of all those who are not at all in the true Church of Christ.—Encyclical "Quanto conficiamur," Aug. 10, 1863, etc.
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Vatican Council II would contradict the Syllabus of Errors for the Vatican Curia, SSPX, SBC and sedevacantists.Since for them LG 16 refers to objective cases
Vatican Council II (UR ,DH) would contradict Mortalium Animos, Quanta Cura, Syllabus of Errors only if B is an exception to A
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2015/07/vatican-council-ii-ur-dh-would.html
If Pope Francis approves of it. He will issue a Syllabus of Errors in which we continue to intepret Vatican Council II with LG 16 an exception to EENS ? http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2015/07/pope-francis-approves-of-it-he-will.html
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2015/02/without-marchetti-inference-vatican.html
ARCHBISHOP,CATHOLIC PRIESTS AND LAY APOLOGIST SAY VATICAN COUNCIL II DOES NOT CONTRADICT THE DOGMA EXTRA ECCLESIAM NULLA SALUS AND THE SYLLABUS OF ERRORS : "We don't know any case of the baptism of desire or invincible ignorance.Only Jesus can judge"
WIKIPEDIA SAYS VATICAN COUNCIL II CONTRADICTS EXTRA ECCLESIAM NULLA SALUS AND THE SSPX AND THE VATICAN DO NOT PROTEST
Archbishop Thomas E.Gullickson says Vatican Council II does not contradict the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus and the Syllabus of Errors http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2012/11/archbishop-thomas-egullickson-says.html
Archbishop Thomas E.Gullickson has said that the Society of St.Pius X must know that adherence to Vatican Council II and the Catechism does not put them at odds with Tradition.
Archbishop Thomas E.Gullickson says Vatican Council II does not contradict the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus and the Syllabus of Errors http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2012/11/archbishop-thomas-egullickson-says.html
Here are Catholic priests with the same message,contrary to Wikipedia.
WE DO NOT KNOW ANYONE SAVED WITH THE BAPTISM OF DESIRE OR INVINCIBLE IGNORANCE SO EVERYONE NEEDS TO ENTER THE CHURCH AS DON BOSCO TAUGHT- Salesian Rector and Parish priest in Rome
VATICAN COUNCIL II AFFIRMS CANTATE DOMINO, COUNCIL OF FLORENCE ON EXTRA ECCLESIAM NULLA SALUS- Fr. Davide Carbonaro
Its a mortal sin to deny the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus. It is a sacrilege to receive the Eucharist in this condition- Fr. Gabrielle, priest of the Franciscan Friars of the Immaculate
THERE IS NO BAPTISM OF DESIRE THAT WE CAN KNOW OF- Fr.George Puthoor
THERE IS NO DE FACTO BAPTISM OF DESIRE THAT WE KNOW OF-Fr. Masimilliano dei Gaspari F. I
MONS.IGNACIO BARREIRO CARAMBULA, INTERIM PRESIDENT,HUMAN LIFE INTERNATIONAL,USA SAYS "We don't know any case of the baptism of desire or invincible ignorance.Only Jesus can judge"
FR.TULLIO ROTONDO AFFIRMS CANTATE DOMINO, COUNCIL OF FLORENCE ON EXTRA ECCLESIAM NULLA SALUS
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