Ann Barnhardt's view on St. Emerentiana is speculation.There is no empirical evidence to suggest that St. Emerentiana is in Heaven with the baptism of desire or baptism of blood and without the baptism of water.No one could see or meet a person in real life saved with the baptism of desire(BOD), baptism of blood(BOB) and in invincible ignorance (I.I). So when there are no known cases of BOD, BOB and I.I then where is the proof that St.Emerentiana was an exception to Feeneyite extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS)?
How could she be an exception to the dogmatic teaching on exclusive salvation in the Church and all needing 'faith and baptism' for salvation(Ad Gentes 7,Vatican Council II)?
The norm for salvation is 'faith and baptism', so how can it be said that St.Emerentiana is an exception to the norm?.
And if someone in the Church has declared that she is an exception then who is this person and who gave him or her the authority to make this statement?
The issue is not whether or not she is a saint but whether she is in Heaven without the baptism of water in the Catholic Church.We can accept in faith that she is a saint in Heaven but how can we accept in faith that St.Emerentiana is an exception to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus and the Nicene Creed( I believe in one baptism for the forgiveness of sins) ?
I accept the baptism of desire.For me it is always a hypothetical and speculative reference. It cannot be anything else. It cannot be visible like the baptism of water. The baptism of water can be seen and repeated.We cannot give any one the baptism of desire.
So we can only accept it as being theoretical. So how can a theoretical case be an exception to Feeneyite extra ecclesiam nulla salus in real life in 2018,for example?
So we can only accept it as being theoretical. So how can a theoretical case be an exception to Feeneyite extra ecclesiam nulla salus in real life in 2018,for example?
So I do not reject the baptism of desire, I repeat.It does not have to be the baptism of desire or extra ecclesiam nulla salus for me.It never was either-or. I affirm implicit for us baptism of desire along with the strict interpretation of the dogma EENS.The baptism of desire is not an issue for me as a Feeneyite(See Feeneyism according to Lionel Andrades
http://eucharistandmission.blo gspot.it/2018/01/what-is-feene yism.html )
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Since the baptism of desire is accepted as a possibility, for me, the possibility will include the baptism of water. It would be the baptism of desire followed by the baptism of water in a way known only to God.
But with or without the baptism of water, the baptism of desire cannot be an exception or relevant to the dogma EENS as it was known,for example, to the missionaries and magisterium in the 16th century.Ann Barnhardt has made an objective mistake, the common one.To suggest someone in Heaven is saved with the baptism of desire and this personis an objective exception to the dogma EENS,violates the Principle of Non Contradiction.How can this person be in two places at the same time?
-Lionel Andrades
But with or without the baptism of water, the baptism of desire cannot be an exception or relevant to the dogma EENS as it was known,for example, to the missionaries and magisterium in the 16th century.Ann Barnhardt has made an objective mistake, the common one.To suggest someone in Heaven is saved with the baptism of desire and this personis an objective exception to the dogma EENS,violates the Principle of Non Contradiction.How can this person be in two places at the same time?
-Lionel Andrades
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JANUARY 27, 2018
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JANUARY 27, 2018
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JANUARY 30, 2018
So it all starts from St. Emerentiana ...http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2018/01/so-it-all-starts-from-st-emerentiana.html
ANUARY 30, 2018
The way you look at St. Emerentiana decides how you interpret Vatican Council II http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2018/01/the-way-you-look-at-st-emerentiana.html
St.Emerentiana a possibility - how is she relevant to extra ecclesiam nulla salus?
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2018/01/stemerentiana-possibility-how-is-she.html
JANUARY 25, 2018
Fr.Feeney did not suggest like Ann Barnhardt that invisible cases of the baptism of desire were visible exceptions to the dogma EENS
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2018/01/frfeeney-did-not-suggest-like-ann.html
Ann Barnhardt still uses Cushingite theology like the other traditionalists
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2018/01/ann-barnhardt-still-uses-cushingite.html
JANUARY 24, 2018
Ann Barnhardt still uses Cushingite theology like the other traditionalists
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2018/01/ann-barnhardt-still-uses-cushingite.html
OCTOBER 25, 2017
Louie Verrecchio, Ann Barnhardt, David Domet, the two popes and the CDF Prefect are in heresy : correction and recantation of error needed
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/10/louie-verrecchio-ann-barnhardt-david.html
SEPTEMBER 19, 2017
Ann Barnhardt, Chris Ferrara's reasoning seem rational but their premises and so inferences are wronghttp://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/09/ann-barnhardt-chris-ferraras-reasoning.html
AUGUST 2, 2017
Ann Barnhardt and Eric Gajiewski(Trad Cat Knight) have no denial : they use a false premise to interpret Vatican Council II even when they can avoid it
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/08/ann-barnhardt-and-eric-gajiewskitrad.html
JULY 31, 2017
For sedevacantists Eric Gajiewski and Ann Barnhardt LG 16 refers to a visible case and so Vatican Council II contradicts Tradition
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/07/fpr-sedevacantists-eric-gajiewski-and.html
SEPTEMBER 15, 2016
Ann Barnhardt with a false premise and conclusion misinterprets the Catholic Faith http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/09/ann-barnhardt-with-false-premise-and.html
Ann Barnhardt is a Catholic even though she violates the Principle of Non Contradiction http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/06/ann-barnhardt-is-catholic-even-though.html
DECEMBER 18, 2015
Ann Barnhardt interprets magisterial documents with Cushingismhttp://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2015/12/ann-barnhardt-is-using-cushingism-to.html
FEBRUARY 7, 2015
There Is No Salvation Outside The Catholic Church (Extra Ecclesiam Nulla Salus) - Ann Barnhardt http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2015/02/there-is-no-salvation-outside-catholic.html
MARCH 1, 2017
TradCat Knight and Ann Barnhardt interpret extra ecclesiam nulla salus with Cushingism instead of Feeneyism, they use an irrational premise.
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/03/tradcat-knight-and-ann-barnhardt.html