eucharistandmission: Diocese of Manchester Curia member says Slaves of Mary Immaculate Heart of Mary, at St.Benedict Center, N.H are 'no longer to be considered Catholic'

Yesterday I e-mailed some of the Curia in the Diocese of Manchester. I sent them the blog post No interviews are being given nor questions answered by Bishop Libasci : doctrinal position of the diocese of Manchester is irrational (April 22, 2019) 1

It was also sent to members of the Catholic Charismatic Renewal Prayer group leaders in the diocese.

Among those whom I contacted, looking for a doctrinal defense and an affirmation of their Catholic faith, was Kelly Goodreau, the Director of Parish Faith Formation. She asked the others, "Who is Lionel?"and I too was asked the same question by her.

Mary Ellen Mahon also received the e-mail from me. She is the Cabinet Secretary for Catholic Formation & Director of Pastoral Ministry.She overlooks the work of the lay groups, secular institutes ,campus activities and religious communities,ecumenical affairs,RCIA and Adult Religious formation and women's affairs etc.

She answers Kelly Goodreau.

She writes : He is involved with the Slaves of Mary Immaculate, the group no longer to be considered Catholic.

For her the Slaves of the Immaculate Heart of Mary are not Catholic and she is confirming it for the rest of the diocese.

So I informed them :

'Who is Lionel?', it is asked by Kelly Goudreau

Lionel is a lay man in Rome who has a blog Eucharist and Mission and writes about Vatican Council II and the Catechism of the Catholic Church being in harmony with the strict interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS) as it was known to the missionaries and Magisterium in the 16th century.This harmony is possible when a false premise, commonly used by the bishop and Curia in Manchester, is avoided.It does not come from the Holy Spirit but is human error.

Unlike the bishop and Curia at the Diocese of Manchester, USA, for Lionel Andrades unknown cases of the baptism of desire, baptism of blood and being saved in invincible ignorance are unknown and so not objective exceptions to the dogma EENS as interpreted by the Slaves of the Immaculate Heart of Mary at the St. Benedict Center, N.H. Also invisible cases of LG 8, LG 14, LG 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc mentioned in Vatican Council II are not physically visible examples of salvation outside the Church and so do not contradict Feeneyite EENS.So Vatican Council II and the Catechisms are Feeneyite and not Cushingite for him.For the bishop Vatican Council II and the Catechisms are Cushingite.( Please see the blog Eucharist and Mission for an explaination of these terms)

For the Bishop of Manchester and the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, this is rational, traditional and non heretical Feeneyite doctrinal position, it would be politically unacceptable.

So presently C.J Doyle in New Hampshire has to lie to stay legal as a Catholic in the Diocese of Manchester. He has to fake it and say that hypothetical and invisible cases are in general non hypothetical and objective exceptions to EENS and the past exclusive ecclesiology of the Church.The same would have to be done by all the religious communities and prayer group members in the Diocese of Manchester.

Common sense tells us that there are no visible exceptions to Feeneyite EENS. However this deception is obligatory for Mary Ellen Mahon, Kelly Goudreau McDonald, Derek,Mason, Matthew, Rebecca Vinson, Mary Jane Silvia and the others who RCIA and are responsible for Cushingite religious formation in Diocese of Manchester.-Lionel Andrades

p.s. Lionel is not a member of the Slaves of the Immaculate Heart of Mary.However like Brother Andre Marie MICM he affirms Vatican Council II, the Creeds and Catechisms, the Letter of the Holy Office 1949, Dominus Iesus and other magisterial documents, all, interpreted with Feeneyism and not Cushingism, as a philosophy and theology.

C,J Doyle has to lie in New Hampshire to stay legally a Catholic

C.J Doyle a layman in North Hampshire,USA in the Diocese of Manchester, interviewed by Michael Voris on Church Militant TV, has to actually say that he personally knows of non Catholics saved outside the Catholic Church.Only in this way is he legally a Catholic for Bishop Peter Libasci.When he supports the irrationality(unknown people are known), he would be saying not every one in Heaven is Catholic.

But this is acceptable for Bishop Peter Libasci and the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith(CDF).

He has to lie to be legal for the diocese.It is the same for other lay Catholics.

This would also be a requirement for all the Catholics in the legislature of North Hampshire.

They have to pledge that unknown cases of the baptism of desire, baptism of blood and invincible ignorance are known exceptions to all needing to enter the Church for salvation and that LG 8, LG 14, LG 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc are visibly known non Catholics saved outside the Church who are visible exceptions to the past ecclesiology and an ecumenism of return. This is irrational and the conclusion is heretical.Yet it is obligatory for the CDF and the Diocese of Manchester.-Lionel Andrades

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