BR. ANDRE MARIE OF ST. BENEDICT’S CENTER
Interviewshttps://www.churchmilitant.com/video/episode/intv-br.-andre-marie-of-st.-benedicts-center
https://fundingmorality.com/project/view/saint-benedict.html
https://fundingmorality.com/project/view/saint-benedict.html
Important points were left out in Michael Voris' interview of Brother Andre Marie MICM
Without making a Feeneyite-Cushingite distinction the St. Benedict Center and conservative Catholics in general will be at the receiving end. The liberal exclesiastics at the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith(CDF) and the Vatican will take advantage of their ignorance.Brother Andre Marie and Michael Voris say there are only Catholics in Heaven.Outside the Church there is no salvation.Even baptized Protestants in general need to enter the Catholic Church to avoid Hell ( for salvation).But the CDF Secretaries have negated this in public. The correspondence has been placed on the website of the Diocese of Manchester, USA.
The Secretaries at the CDF, Archbishops Morandi and Augustine di Noia have said that CCC 847-848 are exceptions to EENS.
There was no reference to this point in the exclusive interview of Brother Andre Marie by Michael Voris. Important points were not covered.May be it was beyond the scope of what Michael initially planned.
There was no reference to this point in the exclusive interview of Brother Andre Marie by Michael Voris. Important points were not covered.May be it was beyond the scope of what Michael initially planned.
Why did they not mention this objection from the CDF ?
One reason could be that it is not understood that the CDF like the cardinals and bishops are Cushingite.With Cushingism the St.Benedict Center would be proven wrong.
But with Feeneyism there is a rational and traditional answer for the SBC and the CDF would be proved wrong.
One reason could be that it is not understood that the CDF like the cardinals and bishops are Cushingite.With Cushingism the St.Benedict Center would be proven wrong.
But with Feeneyism there is a rational and traditional answer for the SBC and the CDF would be proved wrong.
The CDF cannot fool all the people all the time.
1.If invincible ignorance ( CCC 847-848. LG 16 etc) refers to physically visible non Catholics saved outside the Church then it is an exception to traditional extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS).This is Cushingism.
2.When invincible ignorance refers to physically invisible non Catholics saved outside the Church then it is not an exception to traditional EENS. This is Feeneyism, for me.
So the CDF had to be shown, at least through the interview, that CCC 847-848 and LG 16 are not exceptions to Feeneyite EENS.
This is an important point which was not brought out in Michael Voris' interview.
When Brother Andre Marie corresponded with the CDF he mentions invincible ignorance as not referring to personally known people.
This is a big breakthrough.It shows he understands.He is not rejecting invincible ignorance as a possibility known only to God.He is saying that invincible ignorance cannot be an exception to EENS.Since there are no personally known cases.This point had to be elaborated. It is a Feeneyite point.
It also changes the interpretation of Vatican Council II, which is Feeneyite.
We have found the missing link.We now know precisely what causes the hermeneutic of rupture with EENS, the Athanasius Creed, ecumenism of return, Syllabus of Errors and past ecclesiology.
We simply avoid the Cushingite error by referring to the baptism of desire(BOD), baptism of blood(BOB) and invincible ignorance(I.I) as invisible and hypothetical only.They cannot be anything else.This was how the Church Fathers and the Medieval popes interpreted it.It is common sense.
So when the Cushingites at the CDF and the Diocese of Manchester, USA, or Boston, say there are exceptions to EENS, it had to be shown that there are no practical exceptions.This may be was beyond the planned scope of the interview.
It has to be shown in a literal sense, and not theologically,that there are no exceptions to EENS.
When this is done, how will Archbishop Augustine di Noia respond ?Will he say that the SBC must accept CCC 847-848 as exceptions to EENS since he can personally see people in Heaven saved outside the Church? Will he say that he can judge how Jesus will judge someone whom he knows, who is outside the Church and will die with or without mortal sin ?
Die Noia does not know.He cannot judge. He cannot point out an exception to EENS.
This is a point the SBC must cover in Doctrinal Beliefs public. The present online citations will be interpreted with Cushingism by the CDF, the SSPX and the traditionalists. Does Brother Andre Marie interpret them with Feeneyism?
The Profession of Faith for Easter in the churches in New Hampshire could have been interpreted with Cushingism or Feeneyism.
With Cushingism the Syllabus of Errors and the Athanasius Creed are made obsolete with Feeneyism they are not rejected.
In the interview the impression was created that Michael Voris and Brother Andre Marie affirm all the teachings of the Catholic Church interpreted with Cushingism by the present two popes and the CDF.So they are surprised at the prohibitions placed on the SBC by Bishop Libasci, bishop of Manchester.
Bishop Libasci wants the SBC to say that outside the Catholic Church there is salvation and BOD, BOB and I.I and LG 8 etc in Vatican Council II are exceptions.In other words there are personally known non Catholics saved outside the Catholic Church, for them to be exceptions.This is an irrational position of the diocese which was not brought out in the interview.
Possibilities in the past cannot be exceptions to EENS in 2019. Hypothetical cases in 2019 cannot be objective exceptions to all needing to enter the Church this year.We do not know of a Good Thief who will be saved outside the Church in the present times. No one saw St. Emerentiana in Heaven without the baptism of water. A St. Emerentiana of the past cannot be an exception to the teaching on no salvation outside the Church, in the present times.St. Ambrose speculated that his friend the Emperor Valentinan was in Heaven with or without the baptism of water. Personally he could not know.
Yet this is the false philosophical reasoning the CDF and Bishop Libasci are left with when they pursue bad theology.
Bishop Libasci's philosophy ( invisible non Catholics are visible) and theology( outside the Church there is known salvation) is irrational and un-tenable.This is the point that Michael Voris and Brother Andre Marie need to blow up in the future.
They need to show that the red passages, for them in Vatican Council II and other magisterial documents, are not exceptions to the blue passages. 1 So the CDF has made an objective mistake and upon this mistake Bishop Libasci has placed his prohibitions against the SBC.
CMTV after the interview posted an article by Jim Russell, 'Fr. Feeney's strange doctrines'. Russell assumes that 'the red passages are exceptions to the blue passages'.This Cushingite theology supports the CDF and the prohibitions placed upon the SBC.-Lionel Andrades
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We simply avoid the Cushingite error by referring to the baptism of desire(BOD), baptism of blood(BOB) and invincible ignorance(I.I) as invisible and hypothetical only.They cannot be anything else.This was how the Church Fathers and the Medieval popes interpreted it.It is common sense.
So when the Cushingites at the CDF and the Diocese of Manchester, USA, or Boston, say there are exceptions to EENS, it had to be shown that there are no practical exceptions.This may be was beyond the planned scope of the interview.
It has to be shown in a literal sense, and not theologically,that there are no exceptions to EENS.
When this is done, how will Archbishop Augustine di Noia respond ?Will he say that the SBC must accept CCC 847-848 as exceptions to EENS since he can personally see people in Heaven saved outside the Church? Will he say that he can judge how Jesus will judge someone whom he knows, who is outside the Church and will die with or without mortal sin ?
Die Noia does not know.He cannot judge. He cannot point out an exception to EENS.
This is a point the SBC must cover in Doctrinal Beliefs public. The present online citations will be interpreted with Cushingism by the CDF, the SSPX and the traditionalists. Does Brother Andre Marie interpret them with Feeneyism?
The Profession of Faith for Easter in the churches in New Hampshire could have been interpreted with Cushingism or Feeneyism.
With Cushingism the Syllabus of Errors and the Athanasius Creed are made obsolete with Feeneyism they are not rejected.
In the interview the impression was created that Michael Voris and Brother Andre Marie affirm all the teachings of the Catholic Church interpreted with Cushingism by the present two popes and the CDF.So they are surprised at the prohibitions placed on the SBC by Bishop Libasci, bishop of Manchester.
Bishop Libasci wants the SBC to say that outside the Catholic Church there is salvation and BOD, BOB and I.I and LG 8 etc in Vatican Council II are exceptions.In other words there are personally known non Catholics saved outside the Catholic Church, for them to be exceptions.This is an irrational position of the diocese which was not brought out in the interview.
Possibilities in the past cannot be exceptions to EENS in 2019. Hypothetical cases in 2019 cannot be objective exceptions to all needing to enter the Church this year.We do not know of a Good Thief who will be saved outside the Church in the present times. No one saw St. Emerentiana in Heaven without the baptism of water. A St. Emerentiana of the past cannot be an exception to the teaching on no salvation outside the Church, in the present times.St. Ambrose speculated that his friend the Emperor Valentinan was in Heaven with or without the baptism of water. Personally he could not know.
Yet this is the false philosophical reasoning the CDF and Bishop Libasci are left with when they pursue bad theology.
Bishop Libasci's philosophy ( invisible non Catholics are visible) and theology( outside the Church there is known salvation) is irrational and un-tenable.This is the point that Michael Voris and Brother Andre Marie need to blow up in the future.
They need to show that the red passages, for them in Vatican Council II and other magisterial documents, are not exceptions to the blue passages. 1 So the CDF has made an objective mistake and upon this mistake Bishop Libasci has placed his prohibitions against the SBC.
CMTV after the interview posted an article by Jim Russell, 'Fr. Feeney's strange doctrines'. Russell assumes that 'the red passages are exceptions to the blue passages'.This Cushingite theology supports the CDF and the prohibitions placed upon the SBC.-Lionel Andrades
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APRIL 26, 2019
The St.Benedict Center can affirm all Magisterial documents including EENS ( extra ecclesiam nulla salus) with ' the red not being an exception to the blue'
https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/04/the-stbenedict-center-can-affirm-all.html
DECEMBER 21, 2017
It does not have to be either the baptism of desire or extra ecclesiam nulla salus : Just one Religious Superior is needed to understand and affirm this and we will have changed the Church
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/12/it-does-not-have-to-be-either-baptism_92.html
DECEMBER 21, 2017
It does not have to be either the baptism of desire or extra ecclesiam nulla salus.Understand this line and then change your interpretation of Vatican Council II
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/12/it-does-not-have-to-be-either-baptism_21.html
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Cardinal Ottaviani did not know http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2015/11/cardinal-ottaviani-did-not-know.html
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2014/02/sspx-district-superior-italy-makes-same.html#links
MISSING LINK
We have found the missing link.LG 16 can be considered explicit or implicit, visible or invisble. It is irrational to consider LG 16, LG 8, UR 3 etc as referring to explicit cases.This is not common sense.It is rational instead to consider them as implicit, hypothetical and invisible for us.
So if the Franciscan Friars of the Immaculate priests, who offer only the Traditional Latin Mass, affirm LG 16, LG 8, UR 3, NA 2 etc as being invisible for us, there is nothing in Vatican Council II to contradict the old ecclesiology, usually associated with the Latin Mass.There would be nothing in Vatican Council II to contradict the Feeneyite version of EENS. So they would be affirming Vatican Council II ( as sought by the Commissar) and also the pre-1808 ecclesiology.
It's as simple as that!
So the old doctrinal option, rejected by the contemporary Magisterium because of the Magisterial heresy,is available again for them, when they reason out correctly.The ecclesiology does not depend on the Latin Mass.
The two hermeneutics depend on the use or omission of the irrational premise from Marchetti's letterhttp://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2015/02/the-two-hermenutics-depend-on-use-or.html
SSPX show the Vatican the Marchetti error carried over into Redemptoris Missio, Dominus Iesus and other magisterial documents
Archbishop Gerhard Muller was using the false premise : here is the proof! http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2013/06/archbishop-gerhard-muller-was-using.html
January 13, 2015
Cardinal Muller's doctrinal error placed on the Vatican website! http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2015/01/cardinal-mullers-doctrinal-error-placed.html
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http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2014/02/sspx-district-superior-italy-makes-same.html#links
MISSING LINK
So if the Franciscan Friars of the Immaculate priests, who offer only the Traditional Latin Mass, affirm LG 16, LG 8, UR 3, NA 2 etc as being invisible for us, there is nothing in Vatican Council II to contradict the old ecclesiology, usually associated with the Latin Mass.There would be nothing in Vatican Council II to contradict the Feeneyite version of EENS. So they would be affirming Vatican Council II ( as sought by the Commissar) and also the pre-1808 ecclesiology.
It's as simple as that!
So the old doctrinal option, rejected by the contemporary Magisterium because of the Magisterial heresy,is available again for them, when they reason out correctly.The ecclesiology does not depend on the Latin Mass.
The two hermeneutics depend on the use or omission of the irrational premise from Marchetti's letterhttp://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2015/02/the-two-hermenutics-depend-on-use-or.html
SSPX show the Vatican the Marchetti error carried over into Redemptoris Missio, Dominus Iesus and other magisterial documentsArchbishop Gerhard Muller was using the false premise : here is the proof! http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2013/06/archbishop-gerhard-muller-was-using.html
January 13, 2015
Cardinal Muller's doctrinal error placed on the Vatican website! http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2015/01/cardinal-mullers-doctrinal-error-placed.html
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