NOVEMBER 28, 2020
We know that Matt Fradd only interviews Cushingites to meet the agenda of his sponsors and to keep the Youtube numbers rising.If he would interview Brother Andre Marie MICM, many of Fradd's misconceptions would be shelved.The tone and content of his interviews would have to be altered.Matt Fradd would not be able to cite Lumen Gentium 16 as an exception to Feeneyite EENS.Brother Andre Marie would point out that LG 16 is a speculative case.So how could it be a practical exception to EENS ?
We know that Matt Fradd only interviews Cushingites to meet the agenda of his sponsors and to keep the Youtube numbers rising.If he would interview Brother Andre Marie MICM, many of Fradd's misconceptions would be shelved.The tone and content of his interviews would have to be altered.
Matt Fradd would not be able to cite Lumen Gentium 16 as an exception to Feeneyite EENS.Brother Andre Marie would point out that LG 16 is a speculative case.So how could it be a practical exception to EENS ? LG 16 does not contradict St. Thomas Aquinas on EENS.An invisible person cannot be a visible exception.
Similarly he will knock off CCC 1257' God is not limited to the Sacraments', Romans 1 and 2 as cited by Ralph Martin, 'all who are saved are saved through Jesus and the Church' which is Pope Benedict's New Theology ( CCC 846), 'elements of sanctification and truth' in other religions (LG 8), 'people of good will' saved outside the Church (GS 22 ) etc. -Lionel Andrades
WEDNESDAY, NOVEMBER 25, 2020
Liberal Pattern of Error : Here is how it works with Matt Fradd
There is a standard approach to error among the Catholic liberals.
Here is how it works with Matt Fradd.
1. They ignore or reject the strict interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS) as cited by the popes and saints.
2.They will cite a passage from Vatican Council II which they will interpret with a false premise, to create a rupture with Tradition, as mentioned in Number 1 above.
3.They may also quote the Catechism of the Catholic Church also interpreted with the false premise, to contradict Number one above.
4.Then some may cite the Letter of the Holy Office 1949 in which the false premise is used to contradict Feeneyite EENS.
5.So their conclusion is that the Church no more teaches the strict interpretation of EENS and theoretical possibilities are practical exceptions.
LIBERAL EXAMPLE : MATT PRADD
1.St.Thomas Aquinas is never quoted affirming the strict interpretation of extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS).
1.(Time 35:10) What does Vatican Council II say about people outside the Church being saved ? Well In Lumen Gentium 16 we do read...yes it is possible that those outside the fold will be saved.
2.(57:25) St. Thomas Aquinas refers to the baptism of desire for someone who has not received the baptism of water.
3.(57:47) Whereby God whose power is not tied to visible Sacraments sanctifies man inwardly.
4.(57:59) Hence St. Ambrose says of his friend the Emperor Valintinian that I lost him but he did not lose the grace he prayed for.
5.God is not bound Sacraments ( Catechism of the Catholic Church 1257).
6.(59:17) Those who have an implicit desire for the baptism of water can also be saved.
-Lionel Andrades
NOVEMBER 25, 2020
Ralph Martin, Scott Hahn, Matt Fradd and the other liberals do not cite St. Thomas Aquinas affirming the strict interpretation of EENS while they cite theoretical possibilities as practical exceptions to Aquinas
THURSDAY, NOVEMBER 26, 2020
Can You Find Salvation Outside the Church? w/ Steve Ray : Matt Fradd uses the false liberal pattern in the interview with a liberal apologist
WEDNESDAY, NOVEMBER 25, 2020
Trent Horn does not affirm the strict interpretation of EENS by St. Thomas Aquinas or the popes and saints. Neither does he interpret Vatican Council II rationally and in harmony with Feeneyite EENS : It is the same with Ralph Martin, Scott Hahn, Matt Fradd, Steve Ray and other liberals
The crisis in the Catholic Church is that Ralph Martin, Scott Hahn, Trent Horn, Steve Ray and Matt Fradd and other liberals do not cite the saints and popes on the strict interpretation of the dogma EENS while they cite hypothetical and speculative possibilities, which exist only in our mind, as being practical exceptions to EENS. This is 'a truth of the faith which is in conflict with the culture' and Ralph Martin and Scott Hahn are not proclaiming it.
ST.THOMAS AQUINAS IS NEVER QUOTED AFFIRMING THE STRICT INTERPRETATION OF THE DOGMA EXTRA ECCLESIAM NULLA SALUS (EENS).
FRIDAY, NOVEMBER 27, 2020
Ralph Martin and Matt Fradd present a list of false premises to contradict the strict interpretation of extra ecclesiam nulla salus which they do not quote
Ralph Martin and Matt Fradd present a list of false premises to contradict the strict interpretation of extra ecclesiam nulla salus which they do not quote.
They present 'possibilities' as being objective exceptions to the necessity of all to be members of the Catholic Church to avoid Hell.
Indirectly and in a subtle way they suggest that there are visible exceptions to the strict interpretation of EENS- the visible exceptions include, Lumen Gentium 16.
Why is LG 16 a visible exception to EENS for Ralph Martin ?
For me it is unethical to present LG 16 as an exception to St. Thomas Aquinas on EENS, as if there is a visible case of a non Catholic saved outside the Church.
But without these 'visible exceptions' Ralph Martin must affirm the strict interpretation of EENS according to Aquinas and Augustine and he and Fradd and Scott Hahn do not want to do this. -Lionel Andrades
If Pope Benedict did not use the false premise he would be a Feeneyite. If he did not use the New Theology he would be affirming 16th century EENS. It is only as a Cushingite that there can be a development of doctrine with Vatican Council II. Similarly for Ralph Martin, Scott Hahn and Matt Fradd, only with hypothetical cases there can be a development of doctrine on EENS. It is only by projecting invisible cases mentioned in Vatican Council II as being physically visible that there is the familiar development of doctrine of the liberals
If Pope Benedict did not use the false premise he would be a Feeneyite.
If he did not use the New Theology he would be affirming 16th century EENS.
It is only as a Cushingite that there can be a development of doctrine with Vatican Council II.
Similarly for Ralph Martin, Scott Hahn and Matt Fradd, only with hypothetical cases there can be a development of doctrine on EENS. It is only by projecting invisible cases mentioned in Vatican Council II as being physically visible that there is the familiar development of doctrine of the liberals. -Lionel Andrades
TUESDAY, NOVEMBER 24, 2020
Ralph Martin and Matt Fradd are liberals since they confuse what is invisible( baptism of desire) as being visible, they confuse what is implicit( saved in inculpable ignorance) as being explicit. They confuse what is subjective (LG 8, UR 3 etc) as being objective and then project practical exceptions to the past exclusive salvation in the Catholic Church, which they do not affirm theologically
By assuming 'possibilities' are real people in the present times and 'practical exceptions' to traditional exclusive salvation in the Catholic Church Pope Benedict created the New Ecumenism, New Theology, New Ecclsiology etc.Now Ralph Martin and Matt Fradd like liberals are doing the same thing
By assuming 'possibilities' are real people in the present times and 'practical exceptions' to traditional exclusive salvation in the Catholic Church Pope Benedict created the New Ecumenism, New Theology, New Ecclsiology etc.Now Ralph Martin and Matt Fradd like liberals are doing the same thing. -Lionel Andrades
FRIDAY, NOVEMBER 27, 2020
St.Thomas Aquinas had a Catholic identity. He affirmed the strict interpretation of extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS).He did not project invisible cases of being saved in invincible ignorance as being visible exceptions to traditional exclusive salvation in the Catholic Church. This is common sense. It is common sense that we cannot physically see any exceptions to EENS.This is something obvious in any age. Yet the irrationality, the false premise, is common.It is used by by Matt Fradd, Steve Ray, Tim Staples, Trent Horn, Patrick Coffin and Jimmy Akins
St.Thomas Aquinas had a Catholic identity. He affirmed the strict interpretation of extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS).He did not project invisible cases of being saved in invincible ignorance as being visible exceptions to traditional exclusive salvation in the Catholic Church.
This is common sense.
It is common sense that we cannot physically see any exceptions to EENS.This is something obvious in any age.
Yet the irrationality, the false premise, is common.It is used by by Matt Fradd, Steve Ray, Tim Staples, Trent Horn, Patrick Coffin and Jimmy Akins. -Lionel Andrades
WEDNESDAY, NOVEMBER 25, 2020
Ralph Martin, Scott Hahn, Matt Fradd and the other liberals do not cite St. Thomas Aquinas affirming the strict interpretation of EENS while they cite theoretical possibilities as practical exceptions to Aquinas
1.(Time 35:10) What does Vatican Council II say about people outside the Church being saved ? Well In Lumen Gentium 16 we do read...yes it is possible that those outside the fold will be saved.
2.(57:25) St. Thomas Aquinas refers to the baptism of desire for someone who has not received the baptism of water.
3.(57:47) Whereby God whose power is not tied to visible Sacraments sanctifies man inwardly.
4.(57:59) Hence St. Ambrose says of his friend the Emperor Valintinian that I lost him but he did not lose the grace he prayed for.
5.God is not bound Sacraments ( Catechism of the Catholic Church 1257).
6.(59:17) Those who have an implicit desire for the baptism of water can also be saved.
So without confusing possibilities as being real people, we avoid the common false premise and return to Catholic Tradition. There is no room for liberalism and the development of doctrine.
Ralph Martin, Scott Hahn, Matt Fradd and the other liberals do not cite St. Thomas Aquinas affirming the strict interpretation of EENS while they cite theoretical possibilities as practical exceptions to Aquinas.-Lionel Andrades
FRIDAY, NOVEMBER 27, 2020
Matt Fradd only interviews Cushingites and then asks them about extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS). Only those who project hypothetical cases as being objective exceptions to the strict interpretation of EENS, are interviewed and cited. Why does not he interview Brother Andre Marie MICM ? Brother Andre Marie told Anthony Flanders in an interview that speculative theology must not be confused with practical theology.
Matt Fradd only interviews Cushingites and then asks them about extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS). Only those who project hypothetical cases as being objective exceptions to the strict interpretation of EENS, are interviewed and cited. Why does not he interview Brother Andre Marie MICM ? Brother Andre Marie told Anthony Flanders in an interview that speculative theology must not be confused with practical theology. -Lionel Andrades
TUESDAY, NOVEMBER 24, 2020
Ralph Martin and Matt Fradd do not outright say that all non Catholics, Protestants included, are on the way to Hell.Since the both of them do not affirm the Athanasius Creed, the Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius IX and 16th century extra ecclesiam nulla salus of the missionaries.They cannot affirm these Church documents since for them 'theoretical and hypothetical possibilities', which exist only in our mind, are 'objective exceptions' to Tradition( e.g Catechism of Pope Pius X ( 24Q,27Q) etc). This was the ruse used by Pope Benedict and Cardinal Ladaria to reject exclusive salvation being there in only the Catholic Church
Ralph Martin and Matt Fradd do not outright say that all non Catholics, Protestants included, are on the way to Hell.Since the both of them do not affirm the Athanasius Creed, the Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius IX and 16th century extra ecclesiam nulla salus of the missionaries.They cannot affirm these Church documents since for them 'theoretical and hypothetical possibilities', which exist only in our mind, are 'objective exceptions' to Tradition( e.g Catechism of Pope Pius X ( 24Q,27Q) etc).
This was the ruse used by Pope Benedict and Cardinal Ladaria to reject exclusive salvation being there in only the Catholic Church. -Lionel Andrades
THURSDAY, NOVEMBER 26, 2020
Matt Fradd's sponsors want him to use the three point liberal approach to end triumphalism in the Catholic Church.Catholics are fooled with the irrational premise
Matt Fradd's sponsors want him to use the three point liberal approach to end triumphalism in the Catholic Church.Catholics are fooled with the irrational premise.
1) He does not quote the popes and saints on extra ecclesiam nulla salus.
2) He cites Vatican Council II confusing what is implicit as being explicit.
3) With alleged known salvation outside the Catholic Church he concludes that the exclusive salvation of the past is obsolete. At least for him, point number one is obsolete.-Lionel Andrades
TUESDAY, NOVEMBER 24, 2020
Ralph Martin and Matt Fradd are liberals since they confuse what is invisible( baptism of desire) as being visible, they confuse what is implicit( saved in culpable ignorance) as being explicit. They confuse what is subjective (LG 8, UR 3 etc) as being objective and then project practical exceptions to the past exclusive salvation in the Catholic Church, which they do not affirm theologically
Ralph Martin and Matt Fradd are liberals since they confuse what is invisible( baptism of desire) as being visible, they confuse what is implicit( saved in culpable ignorance) as being explicit. They confuse what is subjective (LG 8, UR 3 etc) as being objective and then project practical exceptions to the past exclusive salvation in the Catholic Church, which they do not affirm theologically. -Lionel Andrades
TUESDAY, NOVEMBER 24, 2020
The Holy Office 1949 made an objective mistake and Fr.Leonard Feeney was correct.The baptism of desire and invincible ignorance are not objective exceptions to extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS). They are always hypothetical. Pope Paul VI and the Council Fathers(1965) at Vatican Council II made an objective mistake.LG 8, LG 14, LG 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc in Vatican Council II are hypothetical and speculative only.They are not objective exceptions to Tradition(EENS etc). Ralph Martin and Matt Fradd make the same mistake as the Letter of the Holy Office 1949 and Pope Paul VI
The Holy Office 1949 made an objective mistake and Fr.Leonard Feeney was correct.The baptism of desire and invincible ignorance are not objective exceptions to extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS). They are always hypothetical.
Pope Paul VI and the Council Fathers(1965) at Vatican Council II made an objective mistake.LG 8, LG 14, LG 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc in Vatican Council II are hypothetical and speculative only.They are not objective exceptions to Tradition(EENS etc). Ralph Martin and Matt Fradd make the same mistake as the Letter of the Holy Office 1949 and Pope Paul VI.-Lionel Andrades
SUNDAY, DECEMBER 6, 2020
If Matt Fradd interviewed Brother Andre Marie micm, on EENS, Vatican Council II and the Letter of the Holy Office 1949(LOHO) misconceptions would end.He will not be able to project hypothetical and speculative cases as being practical exceptions to EENS, a common mistake
If Matt Fradd would interview Brother Andre Marie micm, on EENS, Vatican Council II and the Letter of the Holy Office 1949(LOHO) the stable will come down and the misconceptions will run away.He will no longer be able to pretend that Lumen Gentium 16 is relevant to EENS or an exception to EENS.He will not be able to project hypothetical and speculative cases as being practical exceptions to EENS.
This is a common mistake among the apologists of Catholic Answers whom he has interviewed on no salvation outside the Church. -Lionel Andrades
TUESDAY, NOVEMBER 24, 2020
SATURDAY, NOVEMBER 28, 2020
Thomas Williams at Breitbart News like Ralph Martin, Scott Hahn, Matt Fradd,Bishop Robert Barron and the apologists at Catholic Answers, has to use a false premise to interpret extra ecclesiam nulla salus and Vatican Council II.
Thomas Williams at Breitbart News like Ralph Martin, Scott Hahn, Matt Fradd,Bishop Robert Barron and the apologists at Catholic Answers, has to use a false premise to interpret extra ecclesiam nulla salus and Vatican Council II.
Otherwise Breitbart may not employ him.
Now he does not quote St. Thomas Aquinas and St. Augustine on EENS. He is a liberal like Steve Bannon. -Lionel Andrades
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