John Henry Newman, Archbishop Carlo Vigano and Maike Hickson
have still not cited Vatican Council II ( rational ) which would say
Jews need to convert with faith and baptism ( Ad Gentes 7).Instead Life Site
News has produced an old ‘show’ ( pun intended) in which Bruno Forte says Jews
do not need to convert into the Catholic Church for salvation.
So John Henry Weston is politically correct with the Left and does not affirm the Cathlic Faith according to Vatican Council .
Even Michael Voris and Christine Niles at Church Militant TV do not speak about Vatican Council II (rational) since it is sensitive for the Jewish Left and the Muslims in Detroit, Michigan.
But when they interpret Lumen Gentium 14 (baptism of desire) and Lumen Gentium 16 (invincible ignorance) as being visible and not invisible examples of salvation outside the Church.They are assumed to be objective exceptions for Feeneyite extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS).
Then the Nicene Creed means ‘I believe in three or more baptisms for the forgiveness of sins and they exclude the baptism of water in the Catholic Church. So they are exceptions for Feeneyite EENS.'
The Apostles Creed means ‘ I believe in the Holy Spirit, the Holy Catholic Church, which teaches that outside the Church there is known salvation and not outside the Church there is salvation, as in the past.’
The Athanasius Creed which says all need the Catholic faith for salvation, also has exceptions according to this error.
So we have two interpretations of Vatican Council II. John Henry Weston’s and mine.
We have two versions of the Creeds. Life Site News and mine.
There are two versions of the Catechisms which mention the baptism of desire, baptism of blood and invincible ignorance.
In the USA and Italy the Catholic Church supports and does not oppose the political left, with Catholic doctrine. There is the non separation of the Church and the Leftist state.- Lionel Andrades
THURSDAY, JULY 21, 2011
CATHOLIC PRIESTS CORRECT POPE BENEDICT'S MISTAKE : WE DO NOT KNOW ANY CASE OF A NON CATHOLIC SAVED IMPLICITLY BY JESUS AND THE CHURCH SO IT DOES NOT CONTRADICT CANTATE DOMINO,COUNCIL OF FLORENCE
I modified it in such a way that… one did not pray directly for the conversion of the Jews…but that the Lord might hasten the historic hour in which we will all be united.-Light of the World-Conversations with Peter Seewald (Ignatius) p.107
Judaism
I must say that from the first day of my theological studies, the profound unity between the Old and New Testament, between the two parts of our Sacred Scripture, was somehow clear to me. I had realized that we could read the New Testament only together with what had preceded it, otherwise we would not understand it. Then naturally what happened in the Third Reich struck us as Germans, and drove us all the more to look at the people of Israel with humility, shame, and love.
In my theological formation, these things were interwoven, and marked the pathway of my theological thought. So it was clear to me – and here again in absolute continuity with John Paul II – that in my proclamation of the Christian faith there had to be a central place for this new interweaving, with love and understanding, of Israel and the Church, based on respect for each one’s way of being and respective mission[. . .]
A change also seemed necessary to me in the ancient liturgy. In fact, the formula was such as to truly wound the Jews, and it certainly did not express in a positive way the great, profound unity between Old and New Testament. For this reason, I thought that a modification was necessary in the ancient liturgy, in particular in reference to our relationship with our Jewish friends. I modified it in such a way that it contained our faith, that Christ is salvation for all. That there do not exist two ways of salvation, and that therefore Christ is also the savior of the Jews, and not only of the pagans. But also in such a way that one did not pray directly for the conversion of the Jews in a missionary sense, but that the Lord might hasten the historic hour in which we will all be united. For this reason, the arguments used polemically against me by a series of theologians are rash, and do not do justice to what was done. - Benedict XVI, “Light of the World: The Pope, the Church, and the Signs of the Times”, Ignatius Press, 2010. (From the website La Chiesa)(Emphasis added)
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According to the Jewish JTA
Italian Jewish leaders drop Church boycott
September 23, 2009
ROME (JTA) -- Italian Jewish leaders will drop their boycott of the Catholic Church's annual celebration of Judaism.
Italian rabbis pulled out of this year's Jan. 17 "Day of Judaism" over the Vatican's reintroduction last year of a Good Friday Latin prayer that appeared to call for the conversion of Jews. The decision to drop the boycott comes after they received assurances that the Church does not actively try to convert Jews.
The Italian Bishops Conference said in a statement that the agreement to resume participation came at a meeting that Cardinal Angelo Bagnasco, the president of the Italian Bishops Council, held Tuesday with Rome Chief Rabbi Riccardo Di Segni and Rabbi Giuseppe Laras, the president of the Italian Rabbinical Assembly.
"There was a common belief that the resumption of this celebration will help mutual understanding and render collaboration for the growth of love towards God and neighbors more fruitful," the statement said.
At the meeting, the statement said, Bagnasco offered Rosh Hashanah greetings and also underscored "in the most absolute way" that the Church has not changed its policy toward the Jews.
"The Conference of Italian Bishops reiterated that it is not the intention of the Catholic Church to work actively for the conversion of the Jews," the statement said.
Bagnasco also expressed concern about continuing incidents of anti-Semitism that he said must be countered.
SUNDAY, APRIL 8, 2012
DID THE POPE REALLY DENY THE FAITH ON THE NEED FOR JEWS TO CONVERT ?
2. Lionel Andrades says:
Jabba Papa:
'I modified it in such a way that… one did not pray directly for the conversion of the Jews…but that the Lord might hasten the historic hour in which we will all be united.'- Light of the World-Conversations with Peter Seewald (Ignatius) p.107
'one did not pray directly for the conversion of the Jews' since they do not have to convert to avoid Hell it is implied and that they will be saved in general in their religion.
The front page article (April 10, 2008) in the L’Osservatore Romano was written by Cardinal Walter Kaspar.It was presented to the Chief Rabbinate of Israel by Cardinal Tarcisio Bertone, Vatican Secretary of State. It was approved by the Holy Father Pope Benedict XVI.The article said that Vatican Council II indicated that non Catholics can be saved. So Cardinal Kaspar concluded that Jews do not have to convert in the present times.
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2012/04/aniversary-of-denial-of-faith-by.html
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