For Father Paulo Boumis there
are no
physically visible cases of
the baptism of desire (BOD) and being saved in invincible ignorance (I.I) but he will
continue to have adult catechesis today in which he will interpret
BOD and I.I as being physically visible non Catholics saved outside
the Church, in the present times, who are practical exceptions for
the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.This is also the theological
position of the SSPX and the sedevacantists.
Cardinal Angelo Donatis, Vicar
General of the Rome Vicariate, and his Auxiliary bishops know the
same, as does the National Catechetical Center, Italy, but they will teach
Catechism, with this objective error,since this is what Pope Francis
wants, in the interpretation of Vatican Council II.
They are not concerned about
the truth
or the faith, but, the political Left.
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So if I was presenting the
Catechism in the parish of Sant Agapito, Rome, I would say outside
the Catholic Church there is no salvation and I would cite Ad Gentes 7,
Lumen Gentium 14 and the
Catechism of
the Catholic Church (845,846).
For me, LG 8, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc would not be objective exceptions, for
Ad Gentes 7
and the dogma EENS.
Fr. Paul Boumis avoidS a
discussion on this subject.He does not say that he
will interpret Vatican Council II rationally.
I base what I am saying on Vatican Council II and the Catechism of the Catholic Church.Yet the priest could tell other religious to avoid me? Yes. Since the priest will also affirm Vatican Council II and the Catechism of the Catholic Church but interpret hypothetical cases of LG 8, 14, 15, 16, UR 3, NA2, GS 22 etc, as referring to objectively visible cases. For me they are invisibile.
For him there are visible
examples of
salvation outside the Church.
For me they
are hypothetical only.
For him this refers to known
non Catholics saved outside the Church. For me they are invisible cases.
So our premises and inferences are different. Our conclusions would be different, they would be traditional
or non-traditional.
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MY CATECHESIS
So if I was presenting the
Catechism in the parish of Sant Agapito, Rome, I would say outside
the Catholic Church there is no salvation and I would cite Ad Gentes 7,
Lumen Gentium 14 and the
Catechism of
the Catholic Church (845,846).
For me, LG 8, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc would not be objective exceptions, for
Ad Gentes 7
and the dogma EENS.
Fr. Paul Boumis avoided a
discussion on this subject.He did not say that he
would interpret Vatican Council II rationally.
I base what I am saying on Vatican Council II and the Catechism of the Catholic Church and the priest could tell other religious to avoid me? Yes. Since the priest will affirm Vatican Council II and the Catechism of the Catholic Church but interpret hypothetical cases of LG 8, 14, 15, 16, UR 3, NA2, GS 22 etc, are referring to objectively visible cases. For me they are invisibile.
For him there are visible
examples of
salvation outside the Church.
For me they
are hypothetical only.
For him this refers to known
non Catholics saved outside the Church. For me they are invisible cases.
So our premises and inferences
are different.
So of course our conclusions
would be different, they would be traditional
or non-traditional.
He is interpreting Vatican Council II, Creeds, Catechisms and Councils like the Missionaries of Charity, men and women, nearby. When they make their Final Profession of Vows they agree to be obedient to their superiors who interpret Vatican Council II etc, irrationally and as a break with the historic Magisterium.They are following Pope Francis.- Lionel Andrades
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