Father Leonard Feeney was very wrong when it came to Salvation and whom might
be saved. He can be forgiven for such a huge error, for the times in which he lived, He may have personally been responsible for the crisis in the Church which no one has been able to undue to this date,.
When he
said that there is no baptism of desire , as you have mentioned, before,
he could be saying that there are no physically visible cases. We cannot
know of any baptism of desire case. You agree with me here too ( below).
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I have responded
to your quotations, making the visible and invisible distinction. I have also
asked you to make this distinction in the interpretation of Vatican
Council II. Things will become clear them.
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I will leave you YET another quote from Father Feeney from page 125 of his book '' The Bread of Life ''Nearly EVERY page of this book amongst his other books are LOADED with such wrong views on salvation. On salvation on page 124 and 125 of his book.
'' One is
baptism of water and the Holy Ghost which the Church administers in which
Catechumens need to be saved, I myself would say who dies before he is
baptized is PUNISHED. This is quite morbid is it not. But let us return to
this perfect act of love which is suppose to accompany Baptism of Desire
so as to make this a substitute for Baptism by water, How does a man know
that he has made a perfect act of love of God. I do not know " .
Lionel
Yes ! Since
there are no physically visible cases. Not a single one in our human reality.
You have agreed with me on this point before. So how can the baptism of desire
be relevant to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus ? How can
it be an objective exception ? How can it be said there is salvation outside
the Church ? Where is the known catechumen saved outside the Church in
1949-2024?
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Well you are correct on your statement You can not know BUT GOD KNOWS EVERYTHING ABOUT THIS PERSON and it is GOD who makes this deciscion and not you and Father Feeney.
Yes.
The Church
inspired by the Holy Spirit, dogmatically says all need faith and baptism for
salvation ( Ad Gentes 7) and outside the Church there is no salvation ( Council
of Florence 1442 etc). So on earth we know that all non Catholics, in general
are oriented to Hell outside the Church. If there are exceptions for the norm,
it will known only to God.
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FOR it is GOD who decides on who receives BOB, BOD or II as a means of Salvation into the Catholic Faith.
Yes. Agreed.
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IT is also GOD who decides for whatever reason that he chooses if in any other religion that a person was a Catholic before they died.
Yes. Agreed.
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This is the Very
reason that we as Catholics must teach all peoples that they must become a
Catholic before they die in order to get to Heaven. BOB, BOD an II are in the
hands of GOD alone,
Lionel.
Yes. Agreed.
- Lionel Andrades
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APRIL 10, 2023
Ralph Martin, Robert Fastiggi, John Martignoni and Fr. Stefano Visintin osb indicate Pope Francis has violated the Principle of Non Contradiction in his interpretation of Vatican Council II ( April 7, 2019 )
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