Tuesday, September 10, 2024

Obviously, the priest was implying that Lumen Gentium 16 referred to a visible case, someone whom we could know in 1965-2024. But we now know that LG 16 refers to an invisible case, always. It is always hypothetical.

 

Yesterday I was talking to a good priest from South Kerala, India and he believed  that I could not say that in Heaven there are only Catholics or Outside the Church there is no salvation. Since for him Lumen Gentium 16 was an objective exception. It says they also can be saved who follow the dictates of his conscience and who are in ignorance. Obviously, he was implying that LG 16 referred to a visible case, someone whom we could know in 1965-2024. But we now know that LG 16 refers to an invisible case, always. It is always hypothetical. So it never ever was an objective exception for the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus, the Athanasius Creed and the Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius IX.

Bishop Athanasius Schneider and Dr. Taylor Marshall have said that there are no literal cases of the baptism of desire (LG 14). There are no explicit cases of someone saved in invincible ignorance, through no fault of his own. So LG 16 is not a break with the past exclusivist ecclesiology of the Catholic Church.  - Lionel Andrades

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