Lionel:
Correction: I do not remember sending you these two sentences above,I have sent you a report.You have not posted either of the two reports and instead have chosen two sentences.
Anyway I am still glad that you have chosen to answer,
Editor:
Correction: We cannot say in the case of any specific individual living in objective mortal sin that he will NOT go to Hell or that he has sanctifying grace,
Lionel :
Yes so you agree that we physically cannot see any such case.
So there cannot be any known case of someone saved who is living in mortal sin.
Similarly there cannot be any known case of someone saved with the baptism of desire and in invincible ignorance without the baptism of water.
Just as there cannot be a 'situation ethics' in moral theology there cannot be a known situation of someone saved without 'faith and baptism', in salvation theology.
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Editor:
rather the Faith demands us to presume and declare, that unless he repents that he WILL go to Hell, and to presume and warn him, that he does not have sanctifying grace in his soul.
Lionel:
This is understood.It is not the issue.
The issue is : it is assumed there are exceptions to the traditional teachings on mortal sin.
-Lionel Andrades
We cannot say in any specific case that one knows that someone living in mortal sin will not go to Hell and has Sanctifying Grace
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/04/we-cannot-say-in-any-specific-case-that.html
https://fromrome.wordpress.com/2016/04/19/amoris-laetitia-anatomy-of-a-pontifical-debacle/#comment-451