The Catholic traditionalists must not consider these cases as salvation outside the Catholic Church, outside the visible boundaries of the Church.
Since 1) we do not personally know any such case ( saved without faith and baptism, saved without being a formal member of the Church, 2) no magisterial document before 1949 makes this claim and 3) the dogma says all need to be formal members of the Church with no exceptions, for salvation.
-Lionel Andrades
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