Pope Pius XII made a factual error which found its way into the text of Vatican Council II.This is becoming better known among Catholics.It has been known to the Vatican Curia for a long time.There have been reports on this blog over the last few years.Many of these reports have been e-mailed to Vatican dicasteries and offices.
During the pontificate of Pope Pius XII the Letter of the Holy Office 1949 to the Archbishop of Boston issued by Cardinal Francesco Marchetti Selvaggiani made a factual error.
During the pontificate of Pope Pius XII the Letter of the Holy Office 1949 to the Archbishop of Boston issued by Cardinal Francesco Marchetti Selvaggiani made a factual error.
1. It assumed that cases of the baptism of desire and being saved in in invincible ignorance were explicit and so were exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus i.e all do not need to be defacto members of the Catholic Church for salvation, as it was taught over the centuries, since allegedly there were known, objective exceptions.
2. It assumed that past Church documents ( Council of Trent, Mystici Corporis) stated that being saved with the baptism of desire and in invincible ignorance were exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus ( EENs) defined by three Church Councils.This is also factually incorrect. The Council of Trent for example, mentions being saved with implicit desire but does not connect these cases to the dogma. It does not state that these cases are known and so are exceptions to all needing to be card carrying members of the Church for salvation. The connection was made by Cardinal Marchetti and was not corrected by Pope Pius XII.Since then the Church assumes hypotethetical cases are defacto exceptions to EENS and the Syllabus of Errors.
3. Cardinal Marchetti Selvaggiani did not personally know of any one in 1949 who was saved outside the Church i.e without faith and baptism.So he only speculated that there was salvation outside the Church.The magisterium since then assumes there is salvation outside the Church.
3. Cardinal Marchetti Selvaggiani did not personally know of any one in 1949 who was saved outside the Church i.e without faith and baptism.So he only speculated that there was salvation outside the Church.The magisterium since then assumes there is salvation outside the Church.
4.The Marcheti error implies that the dead-saved who are now in Heaven ( allegedly without faith and baptism) are visible on earth( to be exceptions to the dogma). In other words he could see the dead on earth. This is irrational and factually incorrect. It is a fact of life that we humans in general cannot see people who are in Heaven.
This is the Pope Pius XII error which has not been corrected by the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith when it is related to the SSPX issue, evangelisation, inter-religious dialogue, ecumenism, religious liberty, inter faith marriages, heresy against the Nicene Creed, the rejection of a defined dogma,ecclesiology,Catholic education...
An announcement would be needed from Pope Francis, who interprets Vatican Council II with the Pius XII Error.He could clarify that :-
1. There are no known exceptions to Feeneyism in 2015.
2. Before 1949 no magisterial document says the baptism of desire and being saved in invincible ignorance are explicit and so are exceptions to extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS).
3. Cardinal Francesco Marchetti Selvaggiani made a factual error. He did not know of anyone saved outside the Church i.e without faith and baptism.So he wrongly postuled that there was salvation outside the Catholic Church.
1. There are no known exceptions to Feeneyism in 2015.
2. Before 1949 no magisterial document says the baptism of desire and being saved in invincible ignorance are explicit and so are exceptions to extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS).
3. Cardinal Francesco Marchetti Selvaggiani made a factual error. He did not know of anyone saved outside the Church i.e without faith and baptism.So he wrongly postuled that there was salvation outside the Catholic Church.
The first part of the Letter of the Holy Office affirms the Feeneyite version of the dogma and the second part contradicts the first part when it assumed there are known exceptions to the dogma , the baptism of desire and being saved invincible ignorance being some of them.This error was placed in Vatican Council II (AG 7,LG 14).
4.Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre accepted the Cardinal Marchetti Selvaggiani factual error.It is a fact of life that the dead-saved are not visible and known on earth for them to be exceptions to EENS.The SSPX founder also accepted the factual error and the new theology based upon it.
5.There is nothing in Vatican Council II to contradict Feeneyism.LG 16,LG 8,UR 3, NA 2 are not explicit for us in 2015.
6. The Ratzinger-Schonborn Catechism of the Catholic Church(1992) accepted the Pius XII error and did not affirm the rigorist interpretation of the dogma EENS.The magisterium made a factual mistake.The omission can be seen in other magisterial documents like Redemptoris Missio etc.Two theological papers of the International Theological Commission carry this mistake.
So Cardinal Schonborn's YOUCAT carries the same error.
4.Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre accepted the Cardinal Marchetti Selvaggiani factual error.It is a fact of life that the dead-saved are not visible and known on earth for them to be exceptions to EENS.The SSPX founder also accepted the factual error and the new theology based upon it.
5.There is nothing in Vatican Council II to contradict Feeneyism.LG 16,LG 8,UR 3, NA 2 are not explicit for us in 2015.
6. The Ratzinger-Schonborn Catechism of the Catholic Church(1992) accepted the Pius XII error and did not affirm the rigorist interpretation of the dogma EENS.The magisterium made a factual mistake.The omission can be seen in other magisterial documents like Redemptoris Missio etc.Two theological papers of the International Theological Commission carry this mistake.
So Cardinal Schonborn's YOUCAT carries the same error.
For political reasons the fourth quarta meeting this autumn is not expected to discess this major error in the teachings of the post 1949 Catholic Church.
According to Vatican Insider, the “feria quarta” is attended by 25 cardinals and bishops, including: the Secretary of State, Pietro Parolin; the Prefect of the Congregation for the Evangelization of Peoples, Fernando Filoni; the President of the Pontifical Council for Legislative Texts, Francesco Coccopalmerio; the Archbishop of Naples, Crescenzio Sepe; the Archbishop of Vienna, Christoph Schönborn and the Archbishop of Bordeaux, Jean-Pierre Ricard.-Lionel Andrades
__________________________Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre was doctrinally wrong his spiritual heirs must admit for a reconciliation with the truth http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2015/08/archbishop-marcel-lefebvre-was.html
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2015/08/sedevacantist-seminary-is-not-aware-of.html
No mercy for the old ecclesiology
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2015/07/no-mercy-for-old-ecclesiology.html
Vatican/Vicariate is not allowing priests in Rome to interpret Vatican Council II with Feeneyism : incardìnation prohibition http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2015/06/vaticanvicariate-is-not-allowing.html
FFI priests ask Cardinal Robert Sarah if A is in conflict with B for him
Bishop Frank Dewane of Venice, Fla,USA gives the mandatum to teach apparition theology and a new false doctrine approved by the CDF http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2015/05/bishop-frank-dewane-of-venice-flausa.html
Even Tom Mohniyan's Ave Maria University adhere's fully to Ex Corde Ecclesiae and interprets Vatican Counncil II with a false premise
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2014/03/even-tom-mohniyans-ave-maria-university.html
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2014/03/even-tom-mohniyans-ave-maria-university.html
Ecclesiology is not changed with I.I and BOD.It never was.Vatican Council II was always orthodox on salvation.The ecclesiology was exclusivist. http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2015/04/ecclesiology-is-not-changed-with-ii-and.html
No text in Quanto Conficiamur Moerore or the Council of Trent says there are exceptions to the traditional interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2015/04/no-text-in-quanto-conficiamur-moerore.html
Department of Theology and Religious Studies at the University of Bristol is still teaching an irrationality : even after being informed http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2014/10/department-of-theology-and-religious.html
Exclusivist ecclesiology?
Who agrees with you?
Archbishop Thomas E.Gullickson says Vatican Council II does not contradict the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus and the Syllabus of Errors
DEAN OF THEOLOGY AT ST. ANSELM SAYS THERE ARE NO KNOWN EXCEPTIONS TO THE DOGMA EXTRA ECCLESIAM NULLA SALUS http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2013/10/dean-of-theology-at-st-anselm-says.html
Implicit intention, invincible ignorance and a good conscience (LG 16) in Vatican Council II do not contradict extra ecclesiam nulla salus –John Martigioni http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2012/11/implicit-intention-invincible-ignorance.html#links
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2015/04/contemporary-magisterium-is-in.html
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2015/04/contemporary-magisterium-is-in.html
The ecclesiology of Pope Francis and Cardinal Kaspar is based on the objective error in the Letter of the Holy Office 1949 http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2014/11/the-ecclesiology-of-pope-francis-and.html
Beda Pontifical College Rome: still teaching error http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2014/03/beda-pontifical-college-rome-still.html
Pope Pius XII made a factual mistake : ecclesiology of the Novus Ordo and Traditional Latin Mass are now the same http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2014/06/pope-pius-xii-made-factual-mistake.html
Did Pope Pius XII make a mistake ? http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2014/06/did-pope-pius-xii-make-mistake.html#links
Did Pope Pius XII make a mistake ? : implicit desire, invincible ignorance have nothing to do with extra ecclesiam nulla salus
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2014/06/did-pope-pius-xii-make-mistake-implicit.html#links
Catholic Religious indicate the Letter of the Holy Office 1949 made a factual mistake :implicit desire etc is not visible to us http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2014/06/catholic-religious-indicate-letter-of.html#links
Exclusivist ecclesiocentrism is still the teaching of the Catholic Church before and after Vatican Council II http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2014/04/exclusivist-ecclesiocentrism-is-still.html
Ecclesiology does not depend on liturgy in Rome
VATICAN COUNCIL II DOES NOT CONTRADICT THE TRADITIONAL ECCLESIOLOGY WHICH TAUGHT, FOR SALVATION EVERY ONE NEEDED TO BE A VISIBLE MEMBER OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2013/01/vatican-council-ii-does-not-contradict_16.html
Without the false premise ecclesiology is traditional. Vatican Council II is not modernist but traditional http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2012/10/without-false-premise-ecclesiology-is.html
THE VATICAN CURIA IS IN A CRISIS WITH THEIR POLITICAL VERSION OF VATICAN COUNCIL II: SSPX SHOULD ASK THEM FOR REFERENCE TEXTS
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2012/07/vatican-curia-is-in-crisis-with-their.html
INTERNATIONAL THEOLOGICAL COMMISSION USES PREMISE THAT IS FACTUALLY INCORRECT : LIMBOhttp://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2012/03/international-theological-commission_29.html
The International Theological Commission's position paper Christianity and the World Religions 1997 has an objective factual error and is approved by Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger : invincible ignorance is not an exception to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salushttp://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2012/03/international-theological-commissions.html
INTERNATIONAL THEOLOGICAL COMMISSION ASSUMES ‘SEEDS OF THE WORD’ (VATICAN COUNCIL II ) IN OTHER RELIGIONS ARE KNOWN TO US AND THIS IS AN EXPLICIT EXCEPTION TO THE DOGMA EXTRA ECCLESIAM NULLA SALUS
The International Theological Commission's position paper Christianity and the World Religions 1997 has an objective factual error and is approved by Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger : invincible ignorance is not an exception to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salushttp://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2012/03/international-theological-commissions.html
INTERNATIONAL THEOLOGICAL COMMISSION ASSUMES ‘SEEDS OF THE WORD’ (VATICAN COUNCIL II ) IN OTHER RELIGIONS ARE KNOWN TO US AND THIS IS AN EXPLICIT EXCEPTION TO THE DOGMA EXTRA ECCLESIAM NULLA SALUS
Cardinal Luiz Ladaria, Bishop Charles Morerod O.P Oath of Fidelity: to dissent
Profession of Faith allows for dissent on ecclesiology and baptism
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2012/04/cardinal-luiz-ladaria-bishop-charles.html#links
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2012/03/international-theological-commission.html
VATICAN'S INTERNATIONAL THEOLOGICAL COMMISSION MAKES AN ERROR IN ITS POSITION PAPER CHRISTIANITY AND THE WORLD RELIGIONS http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2012/03/vaticans-international-theological.html
VATICAN COUNCIL II REJECTS THE THEOLOGY OF
RELIGIONS http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2012/03/vatican-council-ii-rejects-theology-of.html
Former Secretary of the International Theological Commission holds that those saved with the baptism of desire and in invincible ignorance are known to us and so an exception to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla
salushttp://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2012/02/secretary-of-international-theological.html#links
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VATICAN'S INTERNATIONAL THEOLOGICAL COMMISSION MAKES AN ERROR IN ITS POSITION PAPER CHRISTIANITY AND THE WORLD RELIGIONS http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2012/03/vaticans-international-theological.html
VATICAN COUNCIL II REJECTS THE THEOLOGY OF
RELIGIONS http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2012/03/vatican-council-ii-rejects-theology-of.html
Former Secretary of the International Theological Commission holds that those saved with the baptism of desire and in invincible ignorance are known to us and so an exception to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla
salushttp://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2012/02/secretary-of-international-theological.html#links
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