Fr.Gianfranco Ghirlanda sj, the new Commissar of the Franciscans of the
Immaculate (both groups) must ask them to interpret Vatican Council II with the
Rational Premise (LG 16 refers to a hypothetical cases only in 2022) and not the
Irrational Premise (LG 16 refers to an objective and known person in 2022). The
Jesuit canonist must inform the Roman Rota and the Jesuit Gregorian University,
Rome, where he works, to do the same.
The dividing-issue cannot be Vatican Council II (Irrational) any more.
Pope Francis must accept Vatican Council II (Rational). It would be immoral to
tell the Franciscan Friars and Sisters of the Immaculate to accept Vatican
Council II with the common False Premise (invisible people are visible in
2022).
Secular institutions, judiciary, ecumenical and inter-faith dialogue
groups in Italy, must be informed by the Commissar that the Catholic Church no
more supports the interpretation of Vatican Council II with a Fake Premise,
False Inference and Non Traditional Conclusion.
The rejection of de fide teachings of the Catholic Church can no more be
justified with Vatican Council II ( Irrational) since Catholics now know that
the Council can be interpreted rationally and it is not a break with Tradition.
The irrational interpretation of Vatican Council II by the cardinals and bishops
can be checked.
So the Rector of the Franciscan Friars of the Immaculate, approved by
Pope Francis, at the seminary situated near Termini, Rome, must also interpret
Vatican Council II with the Rational Premise (invisible cases of the baptism of
desire (LG 14) are invisible in 2022) and not the False Premise (invisible
cases of LG 14 are personally known and visible in the present times). It would
be deceptive and dishonest for the seminarians to continue with the lie.
FIRST HOLY COMMUNION AND CONFIRMATION MUST NOT BE A RUPTURE WITH CATHOLIC TRADITION
In Sicily and where the FFI teach in the parishes of Italy, there should
be First Holy Communion and Confirmation classes which are not a rupture with
Catholic Tradition. So all Magisterial Documents must be interpreted rationally
and not irrationally. Then for the the children there will be a continuity
with the Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius IX and the Catechism of Pope Pius X.
It means the Catechism of the Catholic Church has to be interpreted without the modern moral theology of the dissenting Redemptorist priests, Bernard Haring ( Fundamental Option Theory) etc,on mortal sin and irrational and dissenting modern faith theology based upon the False Premise.
FFI SEMINARY ROME COULD HAVE UNITY IN DOCTRINE AND THEOLOGY WITH OTHER SEMINARIES AND UNIVERSITES
The FFI seminary was closed in 2013 by Pope Francis in the diocese of
Porta Santa Rufina, Rome where Archbishop Gianluca Ruzza is the Apostolic
Administrator. The seminary could be re-opened and allowed to have academic
activity as before since now Vatican Council II would no more be an issue, as
long as the other seminaries and universities interpret Magisterial Documents
rationally. There will be unity in the Church.
CATECHISM CLASSES CAN HAVE A CONTINUITY WITH TRADITION WHEN VATICAN COUNCIL II IS INTERPRETED RATIONALLY
The seminary-parish in Boccea, Rome must have catechism classes for
adults and young people, who are shown Vatican Council II as a continuity with the
dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS), as it was known to the missionaries
in the 12th to 16 the century. Presently the lay catechists, the
Brazilian Joselitos Christo priests and the diocesan priests and religious
sisters, teach the children to reject Catholic Tradition by interpreting
Vatican Council II with the False Premise (there are physically visible cases
of non Catholics saved outside the Catholic Church in the present times). This
is not Catholic and neither is it being honest.
CHURCH OF SAN CAMILLO DE LELLIS, SALUSTIANA
Archbishop Ruzza a member of the Italian Bishops Conference himself interprets Vatican Council II with the Fake Premise. He was present at the church San Camillo de Lellis, Salustiana, Rome, where ecumenical groups from different Christian sects, held a common Lenten program. They all interpreted Vatican Council II with the Fake Premise (UR 3 refers to known and visible Christians saved outside the Catholic Church). At San Camillio, the Paulist Fathers would have Holy Mass in English. They continue to use the Fake Premise at the church St. Patrick’s, Rome(St.Patrick's Amercian Catholic Parish in Rome).
EWTN and media correspondents and the faculty of the
American College in Rome and also from other seminaries, go for Holy Mass at St.Patricks. All
of them see the Council as a break with Tradition.
Archbishop Ruzza could ask them all to correct their error. Also the Minim Fathers at the church Sant Andrea Delle Fratte, near Piazza Spagna, Rome, where he spoke, could be told to affirm Catholic Tradition, like Alphonse Ratisbonne.
Ratisbonne in an apparition of Our Lady was shown the beauty and importance of the Catholic Church for the salvation of all people. He converted after this experience, became a priest and founded two missionary communities in the Middle East.
Those religious organizations were neutralized by the
liberals and the Masons who interpreted Vatican Council II with the False
Premise and so made the dogma EENS obsolete.
Archbishop Ruzza could inform the non Christians at Sant Andrea Delle Fratte, who are prominent in the security and other affairs of this church, where the Mass is televised, that Vatican Council II is to be interpreted only with the Rational Premise, to return to the exclusivist ecclesiology of Ratisbonne.
St. Maximillian Kolbe offered his first Mass as a priest, in this church. Alphonse Ratisbonne and St. Maximillian Kolbe used the Rational Premise unlike Cardinal Luiz Ladaria sj and the Archbishop-Secretaries of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, Vatican,who continue with the Fake Premise.-Lionel Andrades
APRIL 28, 2016
The mad theology
The new theology is based on being able to see the dead. Remove the premise, which is, "I can see the dead on earth".We then have the old ecclesiology, the exclusivist ecclesiology. The ecclesiology of Vatican Council II is exclusivist. Since it affirms the rigorist interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus in Ad Gentes 7, which says all need faith and baptism for salvation.LG 16,LG 8,UR 3,NA 2 etc are not known exceptions to Ad Gentes 7 or the dogma on exclusive salvation in the Catholic Church. We are left with the old ecclesiology.
Who agrees with you?
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2012/11/implicit-intention-invincible-ignorance.html#links
http://reader.creativeminorityreport.com/2015/05/bishop-dewane-families-have-right-to.html
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Maike Hickson has not addressed Cardinal Burke and Joseph Shaw's accepting the theology and doctrines of Amoris Laetitia
'What about our prelates? As John-Henry Westen discussed on 25 April, many high-ranking cardinals in Rome now prefer to stay silent..
http://www.onepeterfive.com/we-do-not-need-clarifications-rescind-the-document/
The LMS Chairmans writes 'To reiterate what I've said a few times, Traditional Catholics, or at least those of us trying to engage with the hierarchy, magisterial documents, and the currently 'officially approved' theology, have become very used to this situation. '
So how can they protest against AL's theology when it is also their irrational theology and they are not aware of it?
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'To the average person — or the willing priest or bishop — it doesn’t matter that the exhortation didn’t change doctrine. If they’re given permission to ignore doctrine through “pastoral” justifications, they will.-Steve Skojec
Lionel:
the Catechism(1992).
He said there were exceptions and so EENS was no more like in the 16th century. Now we have Amoris Laetitiae which says there are exceptions to
acouple living in mortal sin ( irregular situation).He indicates the concept of
mortal sin held in the 16th century is there no more.
Cardinal Burke lays great stress on interpreting Church documents in light of the whole tradition of the Church...
To reiterate what I've said a few times, Traditional Catholics, or at least those of us trying to engage with the hierarchy, magisterial documents, and the currently 'officially approved' theology, have become very used to this situation.
We are deeply interested in setting out our case in way which is comprehensible to mainstream Catholic theologians and people in the Roman Curia...
They also include the precise theological and canonical assertions a document is and is not making, and the light shed on the issues by the Church's whole teaching and tradition.
Cushingism is not part of the whole Tradition of the Church. Cardinal Burke interprets Vatican Council II and the dogma EENS with Cushingism: Amoris Laetitia is based on the new moral theology, the heretical theology.
MONDAY, APRIL 18, 2016
TUESDAY, APRIL 12, 2016
Cushingism is not part of the whole Tradition of the Church. Cardinal Burke interprets Vatican Council II and the dogma EENS with Cushingism: Amoris Laetitia is based on the new moral theology, the heretical theology.
...not as a case of a Pope teaching heresy...- Joseph Shaw
Cardinal Burke lays great stress on interpreting Church documents in light of the whole tradition of the Church...
To reiterate what I've said a few times, Traditional Catholics, or at least those of us trying to engage with the hierarchy, magisterial documents, and the currently 'officially approved' theology, have become very used to this situation.
We are deeply interested in setting out our case in way which is comprehensible to mainstream Catholic theologians and people in the Roman Curia...
They also include the precise theological and canonical assertions a document is and is not making, and the light shed on the issues by the Church's whole teaching and tradition.
Cardinal Raymond Burke accepts the liberal moral theology, which affirms known exceptions to the traditional teaching on mortal sin.So he will not have noticed this error in Amoris Laetitia.
http://www.lmschairman.org/2016/04/skojec-and-burke-on-significance-of.html
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The FIUV has been of no help to the Fischer More College and the Franciscans Friars of the Immaculate
Cardinal Nicols and FIUV are telling a falsehood. Why do rank and file Catholics have to accept it?http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2014/05/cardinal-nicols-and-fiuv-are-telling.html
If someone is saved with ' a ray of the Truth' (Nostra Aetate 2) it is not known in 2014, so NA 2 does not contradict AG 7 or extra ecclesiam nulla salushttp://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2014/05/if-someone-is-saved-with-ray-of-truth.html#links
The voice of the Church, in the ancient liturgy, says there is exclusive salvation in the Catholic Church and there are no exceptions.
MARCH 16, 2016
Joseph Shaw removes comments: John Lamont prudently avoids the issuehttp://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/03/joseph-shaw-removes-comments-john.html
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Exclusivist ecclesiology?
The new theology is based on being able to see the dead. Remove the premise, which is, "I can see the dead on earth".We then have the old ecclesiology, the exclusivist ecclesiology. The ecclesiology of Vatican Council II is exclusivist. Since it affirms the rigorist interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus in Ad Gentes 7, which says all need faith and baptism for salvation.LG 16,LG 8,UR 3,NA 2 etc are not known exceptions to Ad Gentes 7 or the dogma on exclusive salvation in the Catholic Church. We are left with the old ecclesiology.
Who agrees with you?
Archbishop Thomas E.Gullickson says Vatican Council II does not contradict the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus and the Syllabus of Errorshttp://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2012/11/archbishop-thomas-egullickson-says.html
DEAN OF THEOLOGY AT ST. ANSELM SAYS THERE ARE NO KNOWN EXCEPTIONS TO THE DOGMA EXTRA ECCLESIAM NULLA SALUSImplicit intention, invincible ignorance and a good conscience (LG 16) in Vatican Council II do not contradict extra ecclesiam nulla salus –John Martigioni
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2012/11/implicit-intention-invincible-ignorance.html#linkshttp://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2015/04/contemporary-magisterium-is-in.html
____________________________http://reader.creativeminorityreport.com/2015/05/bishop-dewane-families-have-right-to.htmlioceseofvenice.org/our-bishop/bishop-frank-j-dewane/
The new theology is based on being able to see the dead. Remove the premise, which is, "I can see the dead on earth".We then have the old ecclesiology, the exclusivist ecclesiology. The ecclesiology of Vatican Council II is exclusivist. Since it affirms the rigorist interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus in Ad Gentes 7, which says all need faith and baptism for salvation.LG 16,LG 8,UR 3,NA 2 etc are not known exceptions to Ad Gentes 7 or the dogma on exclusive salvation in the Catholic Church. We are left with the old ecclesiology.
Who agrees with you?
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2012/11/implicit-intention-invincible-ignorance.html#links
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