Oh PLEASE stop the Chinese water torture. If the
disputed documents are not doctrinal--big surprise,
I've been saying that for the past 20 years
because it is completely obvious---then the
adherents of SSPX already are "in full
communion."
disputed documents are not doctrinal--big surprise,
I've been saying that for the past 20 years
because it is completely obvious---then the
adherents of SSPX already are "in full
communion."
Lionel: If in principle hypothetical
cases are considered objective
in 2016 then Vatican Council II
is a break with Tradition.The
Council itself is not doctrinal.
cases are considered objective
in 2016 then Vatican Council II
is a break with Tradition.The
Council itself is not doctrinal.
If this error in reasoning is not
there, then Vatican Council II
is in harmony with Tradition( the
dogma extra ecclesiam nullasalus, an ecumenism of
returun and the traditional
ecclesiology on religious
liberty, the Nicene Creed etc).
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And yet Benedict XVI declared in connection
with the lifting of the excommunications
that the obstacle to "full communion" IS
doctrinal, but without specifying the
"doctrine" at issue. Except that the
disputed points were clearly never
doctrinal in the first place, as Pozzo
now admits.
with the lifting of the excommunications
that the obstacle to "full communion" IS
doctrinal, but without specifying the
"doctrine" at issue. Except that the
disputed points were clearly never
doctrinal in the first place, as Pozzo
now admits.
Lionel: The 'doctrine at
issue' is the theological
innovation which changes
traditional Catholic
doctrine.The innovation
is accepted by Pope
Benedict, Archbishop
Pozzo and the SSPX.
issue' is the theological
innovation which changes
traditional Catholic
doctrine.The innovation
is accepted by Pope
Benedict, Archbishop
Pozzo and the SSPX.
_________________________
When will the nonsense and the
double talk end? Enough already.
Just issue the piece of paper that
regularizes their canonical situation
exactly the way it is.
double talk end? Enough already.
Just issue the piece of paper that
regularizes their canonical situation
exactly the way it is.
Lionel: If the Vatican
regularises the SSPX
and they could do so,
it will not have cleared
up the doctrinal issue.It
will be also be assumed
that the SSPX accepts
Vatican Council II with
the doctrinal error, with
heresy.
regularises the SSPX
and they could do so,
it will not have cleared
up the doctrinal issue.It
will be also be assumed
that the SSPX accepts
Vatican Council II with
the doctrinal error, with
heresy.
________________________
Talk about Pharisees and doctors
of the law! Good grief.
of the law! Good grief.
Lionel: The same
doctrinal error is made
by Christopher Ferrara,
John Vennari and Michael
Matt, whose writings I
otherwise appreciate.
doctrinal error is made
by Christopher Ferrara,
John Vennari and Michael
Matt, whose writings I
otherwise appreciate.
-Lionel Andrades
http://www.onepeterfive.com/abp-pozzo-on-sspx-disputed-vatican-ii-documents-are-non-doctrinal/
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