Saturday, June 29, 2024

The SSPX bishops do not accept homosexual unions, the Novus Ordo Mass, the Eucharist being given to the re-married and other other innovations in faith and morals in the name of Vatican Council II ( irrational). They reject the innovative Vatican Council II ( irrational ) and are schismatic for the DDF. They too are on the list for a trial.

 



SSPX communique on Archbishop Carlo Maria Vigano.

Archbishop Carlo Maria Viganò published on the internet the letter from the Dicastery for the Doctrine of the Faith (DDF). It notified him of his summons to appear at the DDF Palace on June 20, after the opening of an “extrajudicial” criminal trial against him. 

Lionel: The DDF notified Archbishop Carlo Maria Vigano, that he has to accept Vatican Council II, interpreted only irrationally and so dishonestly. But every Catholic has the moral duty to reject Vatican Council II interpreted irrationally and only accept the Council interpreted rationally.

Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre was correct when he rejected Vatican Council II irrational which was a fake break with Tradition.

Every cardinal and bishop must interpret Vatican Council II in harmony with the ecclesiology of the Apostles, the Church Fathers and the Magisterium over the centuries. This is possible when LG 8, 14, 15, 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc, refer to hypothetical cases only. LG 8 etc cannot be objective exceptions for the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus, the Athanasius Creed, the Syllabus of Errors, the Catechism of Pope Pius X ( 24Q,27Q), the Catechism of the Catholic Church (845,846), the Oath Against Modernism the original interpretation of the Nicene and Apostles Creed etc.

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A Little Explanation

What is an extrajudicial criminal trial? According to the DDF Vademecum published on June 5, 2022, the extrajudicial criminal trial, sometimes called an “administrative trial,” is a form of criminal trial which reduces the formalities provided for in the judicial trial in order to accelerate the course of justice. It does not eliminate the procedural guarantees required for a fair judgment.

Lionel: According to the Code of Canon Law, Cardinal Fernandez is expected to be a Catholic and accept the teachings of the Catholic Church. It is the same for Pope Francis.

They both interpret Vatican Council II and the Catechism of the Catholic Church irrationally and not rationally. I choose the rational version.

The both interpret the Nicene, Apostles and Athanasius Creed with the false premise whenever there is a reference to the baptism of desire or being saved in invincible ignorance. I avoid this error.

For them there are exceptions for the Nicene Creed (baptism of desire etc) for me there are no exceptions. For me there is one baptism for the forgiveness of sins and not three or more known baptisms, objective cases. (Nicene Creed). For the DDF the Holy Spirit teaches the Catholic Church today that outside the Church there is known salvation, for me the Holy Spirit teaches the Church today there is no known salvation outside the Church, LG 16 etc refer to hypothetical and unknown cases.

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For offenses reserved to the DDF, it is up to the DDF alone, on a case-by-case basis, ex officio or at the request of the Ordinary, to decide whether to proceed this way. Just like a judicial trial, an extrajudicial criminal trial can take place at the DDF – which is the case for Viganò – or be entrusted to a lower authority.

Lionel. Archbishop Vigano can object to Msgr Kennedy, Archbishop Augustine Di Noia and Cardinal Fernandez at the DDF being present at a judicial trial. Since they interpret Magisterial Documents (Creeds, Councils, and Catechisms) with a fake premise and inference to produce a non traditional conclusion, which Archbishop Vigano opposes.

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The Accusations Made by the DDF

The decree of summons mentions the charge Viganò will face during the trial. The crime of schism is put forward, because of certain public affirmations negating the elements necessary to maintain communion with the Catholic Church: denial of the legitimacy of Pope Francis; rupture of communion with him; and rejection of the Second Vatican Council.

Lionel: 1. With the false interpretation of Magisterial Documents cited in hundreds of reports on the Internet the DDF is not in communion with the Jesus and the Catholic Church.

2. Pope Francis has an obligation to interpret Magisterial Documents like the popes over the century’s i.e with the rational premise. Otherwise he continues to be in schism and heresy which is public and not contested by anyone.

3. As mentioned above the DDF has an obligation to accept Vatican Council II, which can morally only be interpreted rationally. They are not doing this even though they have been informed and there are numerous reports on this issue on the Internet.

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Following this summons, Viganò published a communiqué, available online, to respond to these accusations. He defends himself in various ways, invoking the doctrinal wanderings of the current pontificate; rejecting neo-modernist errors; and asserting his case compares to that of Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre, also summoned in his time to the Palace of the former Holy Office .

Lionel: With Magisterial Documents interpreted irrationally there has to be ‘doctrinal wanderings’. I agree with him. The result has to be ‘neo-modernist errors’. I agree with him. This is something obvious. When the DDF uses a fake premise to interpret Vatican Council II and approves the objective error in the 1949 Letter of the Holy Office, errors must follow.

Archbishop Lefebvre was correct when he rejected Vatican Council II (irrational). Even I reject Vatican Council II (irrational). The onus lay with Pope John Paul II and Cardinal Ratzinger, to inform Lefebvre. He had a rational option. He could interpret the Council rationally and there would be harmony with Tradition. There would be the absence of liberalism.They did not inform him. Instead they excommunicated him.

Similarly the popes from Pius XII to Paul VI could have announced that there are no visible cases of the baptism of desire. They did not do this. Instead they excommunicated Fr. Leonard Feeney.

The responsibility today lies with the DDF. They must interpret Vatican Council II rationally only. The Council will then be in harmony with Tradition. This will be acceptable for Archbishop Vigano. Pope Francis would emerge as a traditionalist in line with the ecclesiology of Pope Pius X and other popes. He would no more be in schism and heresy.

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There is, however, one point which significantly differentiates him from the founder of the Society of Saint Pius X: Archbishop Viganò makes a clear declaration of sedevacantism in his text. In other words, according to him, Pope Francis is not pope.

Lionel: His sedevacantism, if it is that, is based upon the DDF and the popes', rejection of Vatican Council II, rational. If the Council is interpreted rationally, the Church returns to Tradition and there is no need for sedevacantism.

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How does he explain this? Because of a “defect of consent” from Cardinal Jorge Bergoglio when accepting the papacy. That is, according to Viganò, Cardinal Bergoglio considered the papacy as something other than what it really is. He accepted the pontifical office without fully consenting, and this error resulted in the nullity of his acceptance. His pontificate would therefore be that of a place-holder.

Lionel: Every pope must interpret Vatican Council II rationally and so be a traditionalist. It is the same for every cardinal and bishop. This has to be clear.

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Archbishop Lefebvre and the Society he founded have not ventured down that perilous road. 

Lionel: The SSPX bishops do not accept homosexual unions, the Novus Ordo Mass, the Eucharist being given to the re-married and other other innovations in faith and morals in the name of Vatican Council II ( irrational). They reject  the innovative Vatican Council II ( irrational ) and are schismatic for the DDF.  They too are on the list for a trial.  -  Lionel Andrades

(Sources : Exsurge Domine/Saint-Siège – FSSPX.Actualités)

https://fsspx.news/en/news/vatican-activates-extrajudicial-proceedings-against-archbishop-vigano-45902

JUNE 26, 2024

Gerard O’Connell writing in the Jesuit magazine America, has not clarified that Archbishop Carlo Maria Vigano has to interpret Vatican Council II irrationally and not rationally, otherwise he will face charges of schism or be excommunicated.



Gerard O’Connell writing in the Jesuit magazine America, has not clarified that Archbishop Carlo Maria Vigano has to interpret Vatican Council II irrationally and not rationally, otherwise he will face charges of schism or be excommunicated.

Neither has this been denied by Msgr. John Kennedy, secretary of the Dicastery for the Doctrine of the Faith, Vatican, which is officially interpreting the Council with a fake premise to produce a rupture with Catholic Tradition. 1

 How can Msgr. Kennedy and Cardinal Fernandez be in communion with the Church when they interpret Vatican Council II with a false premise and inference and do not deny it.2

 According to Canon Law Cardinal Fernandez would be in schism when he interprets Vatican Council II ( LG 8,14,15,16,UR 3, NA 2, GS etc) as physically visible examples of salvation outside the Catholic Church and so practical exceptions for the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus ( Council of Florence 1442).3

Fernandez also accepts the 1949 Letter of the Holy Office to the Archbishop of Boston (LOHO). It confused invisible cases of the baptism of desire as being visible exceptions for Feeneyite extra ecclesiam nulla salus.

So the interpretation of the Nicene, Apostles and Athanasius Creed has been changed.This is first class heresy according to Ad Tuendem Fidem of Pope John Paul II. So my interpretation of Vatican Council II with the rational premise has a different conclusion. My interpretation of the Creeds with the rational premise also has a traditional conclusion.Msgr. Kennedy cannot say the same.- Lionel Andrades

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The decree is dated June 11 and is signed by Msgr. John Kennedy, secretary of the doctrinal office's disciplinary section, requesting that Viganò present himself on June 20 at 15:30 to formally receive the accusation and evidence against him.

https://www.americamagazine.org/faith/2024/06/24/vigano-schism-response-trial-248207

 

 

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On June 20, the archbishop posted on his own website a two-page decree from the Vatican's Dicastery for the Doctrine of the Faith ordering him to appear for a trial regarding "public statements that show a denial of points necessary for the preservation of communion with the Catholic Church."

https://www.ncronline.org/vatican/vatican-news/archbishop-vigan-says-he-faces-schism-charges-vaticans-doctrinal-office

 

3.

According to the church's Code of Canon Law, the charge of schism is punishable by excommunication.

 

NICENE CREED
We believe in one God,
the Father, the Almighty,
maker of heaven and earth,
of all that is seen and unseen.
We believe in one Lord, Jesus Christ,
the only Son of God,
eternally begotten of the Father,
God from God, Light from Light,
true God from true God,
begotten, not made, one in Being with the Father.
Through him all things were made.
For us men and for our salvation
he came down from heaven:
by the power of the Holy Spirit
he was born of the Virgin Mary, and became man.
For our sake he was crucified under Pontius Pilate,
he suffered, died, and was buried.
On the third day he rose again
in fulfillment of the Scriptures;
he ascended into heaven
and is seated at the right hand of the Father.
He will come again in glory to judge the living and the dead,
and his kingdom will have no end.
We believe in the Holy Spirit, the Lord, the giver of life,
who proceeds from the Father and the Son.
With the Father and the Son he is worshiped and glorified.
He has spoken through the Prophets.
We believe in one holy catholic and apostolic Church.
We acknowledge one baptism for the forgiveness of sins.
We look for the resurrection of the dead
and the life of the world to come. Amen.


SATURDAY, SEPTEMBER 10, 2016
The Vatican Curia interprets the Nicene Creed with irrational Cushingism : 'I believe in three known baptisms for the forgiveness of sins.'
https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2016/09/the-vatican-curia-interprets-nicene.html



But if there are exceptions for the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS) then the Nicene Creed is saying 1) there are three or more baptisms, 2) they are physically visible for them to be exceptions for EENS, and 3) they exclude the baptism of water and so are practical exceptions for EENS. 4) So EENS is obsolete since there are known exceptions


The Vatican Curia interprets the Nicene Creed with irrational Cushingism : 'I believe in three known baptisms for the forgiveness of sins.' When the Creed is interpreted with Cushingism the result is first class heresy in the hierarchy of truth of Pope John Paul II.




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VATICAN COUNCIL II

Rational Premise
 Unitatis Redintigratio 3, Lumen Gentium  14 and Lumen Gentium 16  in Vatican Council II refer to physically invisible cases in 1965-2021.They are only hypothetical and theoretical. They exist only in our mind and are not solid bodies at Newton's level of time, space and matter.

Rational Inference
They are not objective examples of salvation outside the Church for us human beings.

Rational Conclusion
Vatican Council II does not contradict EENS as it was interpreted by the Jesuits in the Middle Ages.It does not contradict the strict interpretation of EENS of St. Thomas Aquinas( saved in invincible ignorance is invisible), St. Augustine and Fr. Leonard Feeney of Boston.
The Letter of the Holy Office(Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith) 1949 made an objective mistake.-L.A
https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2021/05/in-italy-national-catechetical-centers.html


APRIL 15, 2021


Pope Francis and Pope Benedict's interpretation of the Catechism of the Catholic Church ( CCC 846, 1257) are non magisterial since they use a false premise to interpret CCC 846 (Outside the Church No Salvation) and CCC 1257 ( The Necessity of Baptism ).They have a rational and traditional choice which they avoid
https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2021/04/pope-francis-and-pope-benedicts.html

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