Who
is in schism ?
If
LG 8 etc refer to hypothetical cases, invisible people in 2024 for you, and
then Vatican Council II has no exceptions for Feeneyite extra ecclesiam nulla
salus (EENS).
If
LG 8 etc are seen as objective, implicit cases for you then there is nothing in
the Council-text to contradict Traditional Mission; mission which is
ecclesiocentric and not just Christocentric and ecumenical.
If
for you LG 8 etc are subjective cases; they are not real people in reality then
Vatican Council II does not contradict the Athanasius Creed, the Syllabus of
Errors and the Catechisms of Trent and Pius X.
So
if Pope Francis and Cardinal Fernandez say that LG 8,14,15,16,UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc, refer to invisible cases
then it means that the liberals in the Church are in schism.
They
are in schism because they reject the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus, the
Athanasius Creed, the Syllabus of Errors and the Catechisms of Trent and Pius X
etc.
They
are in schism because they reject the original interpretation of the Creeds.
So
when Archbishop Vigano says Pope Francis and Cardinal Fernandez are in heresy
and schism, I agree with him. Since for me Vatican Council II does not
contradict the de fide teachings of the Catholic Church. However for the pope
and the DDF, Vatican Council II is a break with EENS etc. Since for them LG
8,14,15,16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc, refer to visible examples of salvation
outside the Church in the present times.
We
have a moral obligation to interpret LG 8 etc as implicit cases. So how can it
be magisterial when Pope Francis and Cardinal Fernandez interpret LG 8 etc as
explicit cases in the present times?
Pope
Francis and Cardinal Fernandez are magisterial only when they do not confuse
what is invisible as being visible. Then it means that the liberals can no more cite Vatican Council II, irrational to justify their liberalism, which is heretical and schismatic - Lionel Andrades
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