Wednesday, July 17, 2024

When Pope Francis and Cardinal Angelo Comastri were asked about the First Commandment on TV 2000 etc, neither of two said that there is true worship in only the Catholic Church. This could be a good enough reason for Archbishop Vigano to reject Pope Francis as the pope.

 

When Pope Francis and Cardinal Angelo Comastri were asked about the First Commandment on  TV 2000 etc, neither of two said that there is true worship in only the Catholic Church. This could be a good enough reason for Archbishop Vigano to reject Pope Francis as the pope. But mentioning it to the DDF would be of no use, since they would cite Vatican Council, interpreted irrationally. This interpretation has exceptions for the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus. So for the DDF the Catholic Church no more supports the past exclusivist ecclesiology and the past exclusivist salvation teaching of the Creeds, Councils, Catechisms and the First Commandment.

But for us who interpret Vatican Council II, rationally, we know that the Catholic Church is the continuation of the Jewish religion. It is the Jewish religion with the Jewish Messiah, the Christ, and the King of the Jews.

So since Vatican Council II interpreted rationally, does not have exceptions for the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus and the past ecclesiocentrism, we can say outside the Catholic Church there is no salvation and there is true worship in only the Catholic Church. Vatican Council II says the Catholic Church has ‘the fullness of truth’ and ‘all need faith and baptism for salvation’. It means in Heaven there are only Catholics. They are there with Catholic faith and the baptism of water and without mortal sin on their soul.

Since Vatican Council II supports Tradition with Ad Gentes 7 (all need faith and baptism for salvation) and Lumen Gentium 8, 14, 15, 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc are not objective exceptions for Ad Gentes 7, Vatican Council II can no more be a rupture with Tradition for Pope Francis and Cardinal Fernandez. They have to support the past exclusivist ecclesiology based upon EENS; otherwise they are in public schism. The liberals are in schism when they do not accept the Athanasius Creed etc and they cannot justify their dissent and disbelief with Vatican Council II, interpreted irrationally.

I accept Vatican Council II, rational and the past exclusivisist ecclesiology. I accept Pope Francis as the pope even though he is in public mortal sin, the state of being automatically excommunicated. This can be a temporary state which is changeable. He can renounce his sin and end the scandal. With Vatican Council II (rational) he could be a conservative pope supporting Catholic orthodoxy.

-       Lionel Andrades


MARCH 18, 2022

The theology taught at Confirmation and Holy Communion classes is political. Parents are not aware of it.

 


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AT HOLY COMMUNION AND CONFIRMATION CLASSES THE CHILDREN ARE TAUGHT TO REJECT THE ATHANASIUS CREED, CHANGE THE INTERPRETATION OF THE NICENE CREED AND INTERPRET THE APOSTLES CREED ALSO WITH A FALSE PREMISE.THE SAME ERROR IS EXTENDED TO THE FIRST COMMANDMENT.



1 Athanasius Creed









2.Nicene Creed








3.Apostles Creed







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MAY 1, 2021

Pope Francis and Cardinal Comastri when speaking about the First Commandment could not say that there was true worship in only the Catholic Church : Now they even reject the Athanasius Creed which says outside the Church there is no salvation

 Pope Francis and Cardinal Comastri when speaking about the First Commandment could not say that there was true worship in only the Catholic Church. Since they both use the false premise to interpret the baptism of desire(BOD), the baptism of blood (BOB)and invincible ignorance(I.I) with the irrational premise. They assume that BOD, BOB and I.I refer to known non Catholics saved outside the Catholic Church in the present times.So for them there is known salvation outside the Church. For them there are practical exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS). So non Catholics are saved outside the Church even as non Christians or non believers in God.

If they used the rational premise ( blue passages ) then outside the Church there would be no known salvation and so then they would have to say that there is true worship in only the Catholic Church and that this is the only one true Church or Christ(UR 2) and the Catholics are the new people of God ( NA 4).Now they even reject the Athanasius Creed which says outside the Church there is no salvation. -Lionel Andrades


 SEPTEMBER 7, 2020

Pope Francis uses the false premise to interpret Vatican Council II and this contradicts the First Commandment.TV 2000 did not bring up this point in a recent interview on the Creed. He interprets the Creed with the irrational premise.

 Pope says 'holier than thou' believers unwilling to help others, "get hands  dirty" only "superficial" Christians - Novena

Pope Francis uses the false premise to interpret Vatican Council II and this contradicts the First Commandment.TV 2000 did not bring up this point in a recent interview on the Creed. He interprets the Creed with the irrational premise.-Lionel Andrades

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2020/09/pope-francis-uses-false-premise-to.html


SEPTEMBER 5, 2020

Cardinal Comastri interprets BOD, BOB and I.I with a false premise and so there are exceptions to EENS for him, there are also exceptions to traditional salvation and the First Commandment. So he cannot say that Catholics only worshop the true God: he limits himself to the worldly gods of sex and money

  

Cardinal Comastri  interprets the baptism of desire(BOD), the baptism of blood (BOB) and invincible ignorance ( I.I) with a false premise and so there are exceptions to EENS for him, there are also exceptions to traditional salvation and the First Commandment. So he cannot say that Catholics only worshop the true God.He limits himself in the video to the worldly gods of sex and money. -Lionel Andrades

TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 8, 2020

Cardinal Angelo Comastri like Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger in explaining the First Commandment could not say that in the Catholic Church there is true worship

 Cardinal Angelo Comastri like Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger  in explaining the First Commandment could not say  that in the Catholic Church there is true worship and the other religions are not paths to salvation. Since for them hypothetical cases of Lumen Gentium 16  etc are real exceptions to exclusivist  salvation in the Catholic Church. -Lionel Andrades

Come sarebbe piĆ¹ bello il Mondo se seguissimo questa saggia segnaletica che Dio ci ha dato (Youtube)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PC6AICaoapY




BAPTISM OF DESIRE, BAPTISM OF BLOOD AND INVINCIBLE IGNORANCE

Fake premise

The Baptism of Desire, Baptism of Blood and Invincible Ignorance refer to physically visible cases in 1949-2021.

Fake inference
They are objective examples of salvation outside the Church.They are examples of known non Catholics saved without Catholic faith and the baptism of water.

Fake conclusion
So they contradict the strict interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS).The Athanasius Creed(outside the Church there is no salvation) and the Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius IX ( ecumenism of return) were made obsolete.
Pope Pius XII and the Holy Office(CDF) made an objective mistake.

BAPTISM OF DESIRE, BAPTISM OF BLOOD AND INVINCIBLE IGNORANCE

Rational Premise

The Baptism of Desire, Baptism of Blood and Invincible Ignorance refer to physically invisible cases in 1949-2021
They are only hypothetical and theoretical. They exist only in our mind and are not solid bodies at Newton's level of time, space and matter.

Rational Inference
They are not objective examples of salvation outside the Church for us human beings.They are not examples of known non Catholics saved without Catholic faith and the baptism of water.

Rational Conclusion
They do not contradict EENS as it was interpreted by the Jesuits in the Middle Ages.They do not contradict the strict interpretation of EENS of St. Thomas Aquinas( saved in invincible ignorance is invisible), St. Augustine and Fr. Leonard Feeney of Boston.
The Letter of the Holy Office(Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith) 1949 made an objective mistake.
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VATICAN COUNCIL II

Fake premise

Unitatis Redintigratio 3, Lumen Gentium 14(Baptism of Desire), Lumen Gentium 16 (Invincible ignorance) etc in Vatican Council II refer to physically visible cases in 1965-2021.

Fake inference
They are objective examples of salvation outside the Church.

Fake conclusion
Vatican Council II contradicts the strict interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS).The Athanasius Creed(outside the Church there is no salvation) and the Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius IX ( ecumenism of return) were made obsolete.
Pope Paul VI and the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, Vatican, made an objective error.

VATICAN COUNCIL II

Rational Premise
 Unitatis Redintigratio 3, Lumen Gentium  14 and Lumen Gentium 16  in Vatican Council II refer to physically invisible cases in 1965-2021.They are only hypothetical and theoretical. They exist only in our mind and are not solid bodies at Newton's level of time, space and matter.

Rational Inference
They are not objective examples of salvation outside the Church for us human beings.

Rational Conclusion
Vatican Council II does not contradict EENS as it was interpreted by the Jesuits in the Middle Ages.It does not contradict the strict interpretation of EENS of St. Thomas Aquinas( saved in invincible ignorance is invisible), St. Augustine and Fr. Leonard Feeney of Boston.
The Letter of the Holy Office(Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith) 1949 made an objective mistake.-L.A
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NOVEMBER 17, 2020

For Pope Francis outside the Church there is salvation so there is also true worship in other religions. It's the same for Pope Benedict

 For Pope Francis outside the Church there is salvation so there is also true worship in other religions. It's the same for Pope Benedict. 

Q. 1140. What is the first Commandment?

A. The first Commandment is: I am the Lord thy God: thou shalt not have strange gods before me.- Baltimore Catechism


THE FIRST COMMANDMENT

I am the LORD your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. You shall have no other gods before me. You shall not make for yourself a graven image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth; you shall not bow down to them or serve them.

It is written: "You shall worship the Lord your God and him only shall you serve."- Catechism of the Catholic  Church

So the First Commandment which says? I am the Lord thy God and thou shalt have no other gods beside me, has been changed.

Since even the monotheist and pagan religions which do not believe in Christ have true worship, for the present two popes.Since outside the Church there is salvation for them instead of outside the Church there is no salvation.

 For me there is true worship in only the Catbholic Church and outside the Catholic Church there is no salvation and no true worship.-Lionel Andrades




, NOVEMBER 17, 2020

Pope Francis and Pope Benedict along with the Vatican dicasteries and Congregations, interpret the Creeds irrationally, non traditionally, heretically and schismatically

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2020/11/pope-francis-and-pope-benedict-along.html

If Pope Francis and Cardinal Fernandez announce that LG 8,14,15,16,UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc, refer to hypothetical cases only then it is the liberals who are in schism.But so is the New Theology, New Ecumenism and New Ecclesiology

 

If Pope Francis and Cardinal Fernandez announce that LG 8,14,15,16,UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc, refer to hypothetical cases only: they refer to invisible people in 2024, then it is the liberals who are in schism. Since then they have to affirm the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus and the Athanasius Creed. They do not do it now. They say Tradition has been made obsolete with Vatican Council II. They mean Vatican Council II irrational only. They also are unable to make the Vatican Council II rational and irrational distinction for them they will be exposed. With Vatican Council II, rational, they will be able to affirm the Athanasius Creed etc and they do not want to do this.

So with their dissent, not being supported by Vatican Council II ( rational )  any more, they are in schism with the Catholic Church over the centuries.

But it also means that the New Theology based upon invisible people being visible, the New Ecumenism (with visible exceptions for an ecumenism of return to the Catholic Church) are also schismatic and heretical.

The liberalism from Vatican Council II, irrational, is schismatic. It is something foreign in the Church.

That ‘something foreign’ , ‘something new’ entered the Church when the CDF/Holy Office, confused invisible cases of the baptism of desire as being visible exceptions for the traditional strict interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus. The mistake in public was repeated by Pope Paul VI and Cardinal Alfredo Ottaviani in 1965.It was not corrected by Pope John Paul II and Cardinal Ratzinger..

So when traditionalists say that they are only following Tradition and nothing new, they are wrong.

 Something new came into the Church.This was a mistake made by Christopher Ferrara and John Vennari.They were making the same mistake as the liberals. Both groups were interpreting Vatican Council II, irrationally and did not know about Vatican Council II, rational.

Then some 15 years back something new, was further discovered. It was Vatican Council II rational, which is not being followed by the liberals and conservatives.

Vatican Council II, rational, was not known to Fr. Nicholas Gruner, John Vennari, Christopher Ferrara, Archbishop Lefebvre, Romano Amerio and Archbishop Carlo Maria Vigano.






The same mistake is being made today by Michael Matt, Peter Kwasniewski. John Henry Weston, the sedevacantists Bishops Donald Sanborn and Mark Pivarunas…..  - Lionel Andrades

Fiducia Supplicans is a heretical document since it is not orthodox, contradicts traditional morals and supports mortal sins and can no more be justified with Vatican Council II interpreted irrationally.Now we know of a Vatican Council II, rational.

 

Fiducia Supplicans is a heretical document since it is not orthodox, contradicts traditional morals and supports mortal sins and can no more be justified with Vatican Council II interpreted irrationally.Now we know of a Vatican Council II, rational.

Vatican Council II, rational has no exceptions for the past exclusivist ecclesiology and with Ad Gentes 7, it supports the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus. So without rejecting Vatican Council II, today, a Catholic can go back to traditional faith, morals and mission.

The new moral theology is based upon Vatican Council II, irrational and so is obsolete. It is a rupture with the past moral theology. So it is schismatic and can no more be supported in the name of Vatican Council II, which morally, must only be interpreted rationally.

So Fiducia Supplicans, morally, is heretical and is schism with the traditional moral theology over the centuries. It is a break with the teachings of the Apostles and the Church Fathers. It is a schismatic document. - Lionel Andrades