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11:23 am EDT
Is
Francis the pope? The argument from public heresy suggests not
(LifeSiteNews) — Our recent article, which defended Archbishop
Viganò from the charge of schism, summarized a number of arguments which point
towards Francis not being a true pope. (Lionel.
That report has not commented on simple observations )
That article
promised more detailed expositions of these arguments. This is the first of
those more detailed explanations and deals with the argument that Francis is
not the true pope because he is not a member of the Catholic Church, as a
result of his departure from the public profession of the Catholic
faith.
(Lionel. Even John Henry
Westin has departed from the public profession of the Catholic faith. He could
be doing this for monetary reasons and Pope Francis does it to please the Left
)
Who are the
members of the Catholic Church?
The Catholic
Church teaches that her members are those who:
- have received the
sacrament of baptism
- publicly
profess the Catholic faith (Lionel: Pope Francis and John
Henry Westin interpret Vatican Council II irrationally and not rationally)
- submit to the lawful
authorities of the Church. ( Lionel: The lawful
authorities are interpreting Magisterial Documents deceptively and so are
the correspondents of LifeSite News )
As a consequence,
the following can never, under any circumstances, be considered as members of
the Catholic Church.
- the unbaptized
- public heretics (Lionel. Both Pope Francis
and John Henry Westin reject the Athanasius Creed with the irrational
interpretation of Vatican Council II. Alleged exceptions are created when
there are none ).
- public schismatics.(Lionel. Pope Francis and John Henry Westin are in schism with the
Magisterium of for example the Middle Ages. They interpreted the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus as
having no exceptions. They interpreted the baptism of desire as being a
physically invisible case.It is not the same today ).
Those whom
ecclesiastical authority has excluded by its own act, that is, those subject to
a sentence of perfect excommunication, are also not to be regarded as members. (Lionel. But the ecclesiastical authority is in
public schism and heresy on the Creeds, the Councils and Catechisms which they
interpret dishonestly. Catholics are not obliged to follow.)
This doctrine of
membership has, for many centuries, been clearly proposed to the faithful, in
dozens, possibly hundreds of catechetical texts, which have been approved by
the Roman Pontiffs or by the Successors of the Apostles who govern the Church
in union with him. This doctrine must be regarded as infallible by virtue of
being taught by the universal and ordinary magisterium of the Church. (Lionel: Yes. But the popes like
John Henry Westin make an objective error in the interpretation of Magisterial
Documents which I avoid. So how can they be considered members of the Catholic
Church, according to Canon Law? )
The Catechism of the Council of Trent expressed the doctrine in these terms:
[T]here are but
three classes of persons excluded from the Church’s pale: infidels, heretics
and schismatics, and excommunicated persons. (Lionel. Pope
Francis and John Henry Westin come in this category. I have mentioned this many
times . There is no denial or clarification from Life Site News).
Infidels are
outside the Church because they never belonged to, and never knew the Church,
and were never made partakers of any of her Sacraments. (Lionel. True. But for John Henry Westin
Protestants are not outside the Catholic Church )
Heretics and
schismatics are excluded from the Church, because they have separated from her
and belong to her only as deserters belong to the army from which they have deserted.. (Lionel: Interpreting the
Creeds with an irrational premise and inference to produce a non traditional conclusion is the heresy of the Lefebvrists, the popes and LifeSite News.)
[…]
Actually, only those are to be included as members of the Church who have been baptized and profess the true faith, and who have not been so unfortunate as to separate themselves from the unity of the body or been excluded by legitimate authority for grave faults committed.[2] (Lionel. So Pope Francis and the correspondents of Life Site News are outside the Church they both separate themselves from the teaching of the Magisterium over the centuries and they continue to choose an irrational premise and inference to interpret de fide teachings).
According to [Pope
Pius XII in the encyclical letter Mystici Corporis Christi] three conditions are
required for membership of the Church: a) The valid reception of the Sacrament
of Baptism. b) The profession of the true faith. c) Participation in the Communion of the
Church. By the fulfilment of these three conditions one subjects oneself to the
threefold office of the Church, the sacerdotal office (Baptism), the teaching
office (Confession of Faith), and the pastoral office (obedience to Church
authority).[5] (Lionel. Ludwig Ott interpreted Vatican Council
II irrationally. He also accepted the Letter of the Holy Office to the
Archbishop of Boston in 1949 which interpreted the baptism of desire irrationally.
)
He continued…
Public heretics, without exception, are severed from
the Catholic Church
We have seen above
that public heresy is fundamentally incompatible with membership of the
Catholic Church. No Catholic is a public heretic. No public heretic is a
Catholic. There are no exceptions to this rule. This a consequence of the fact
that the Church is by its very nature, a “society of
men” who are united in “profession of the same faith.” A body which was
not united in the same faith would not be the Catholic Church. (Lionel: We have seen from above that both Pope
Francis and John Henry Westin interpret the Creeds , Councils and Catechisms
irrationally and so dishonestly)
Our Lord Jesus
Christ established the Catholic Church for the salvation of mankind. He
commanded that everyone enter into Her. In order to make it easy for all souls
to find identify the true Church and enter into her, Our Lord has given her
four marks which she can never lose, and which will always be clearly evident.
These are the marks of (i) unity, (ii) sanctity, (iii) catholicity, and (iv)
apostolicity. Thus, we refer to the true Church of Christ, as the One Holy
Catholic and Apostolic Church. (Lionel. For the Apostles
there were no exceptions for the teaching on outside the Church there is no
salvation but for Pope Francis and John Henry Westin and the SSPX there are
exceptions. This is not apostolic. It is not the doctrine of the one, holy,
Catholic and apostolic Church).
Francis is a public heretic
Francis is a
public heretic. That is, he publicly refuses submission to the rule of faith
proposed by the magisterium of
the Catholic Church. Further, he persists in this refusal
to submit to the magisterium, in the face of public corrections.(Lionel : Even John Henry Westin and the signers of
petitions do the same )
Since his
purported election he has publicly departed from the profession of the
Catholic faith dozens, perhaps hundreds,
of times in his documents,
his sermons, and his interviews. It is absolutely
evident that he does not submit to the rule of
faith proposed by the magisterium of the Catholic
Church. (Lionel. The same can be said
of Life Site News. There never has been a specific discussion on this issue. So
they then will have to admit that they are heretics and schismatics like the popes
of today ).
And, as we have
seen, the denial or doubt of just one revealed doctrine is sufficient to sever
a man from the body of the Church. (Lionel. Pope Francis
and John Henry Westin interpret the Nicene
and Apostles Creed irrationally. They reject the original text of the
Athanasius Creed confusing what is invisible as being visible exceptions. I am citing specific examples. This is proof.).
It would be
impossible here to catalogue the dozens of heresies – or more – of
which Francis is guilty. But here are seven, which the authors of 2017 Filial Correction found present in the
document Amoris Laetitia and which they formulated as follows: (Lionel. The autors of the Filial
Correction interpreted Vatican Council II irrationally.They interpret all the
Catechisms irrationally. They reject the Athanasius Creed as do the bishops of
the SSPX, with their alleged exceptions…)
Francis is
therefore, most certainly, a public heretic. (Lionel:
It is the same with John Henry westin and the college of cardinals and bishops.A. I have provided the proof here.I have mentioned specific documents which are
rejected and I have mentioned B.the specific false premise used to interpret
these documents).
The only question
that remains is whether this public heresy is something for which he is morally
guilty, which would make him a formal public heretic, or
something for which he is morally innocent, which would make him a material public
heretic. (Lionel. Pope Francis
and John Henry Westin reject the Athanasius Creed with alleged exceptions. It is the same for the
Dicastery for the Doctrine of the Faith. This is formal and public.)
Is Francis the pope?
We have seen that
Francis, in his public statements, does not publicly profess the Catholic
faith.
He does not submit
to the rule of faith proposed by the magisterium of the Catholic Church, but
rather substitutes another rule in its place. Francis is certainly a public
heretic. (Lionel. But so
is John Henry Westin and the Lefebvrists in general ).
We have further
seen that a formal public heretic is certainly not a member of
the Catholic Church.
Therefore, if
Francis is a formal public heretic, that is if he “openly and
guiltily refuses submission to the rule of faith proposed by the magisterium”
then he is certainly not a member of the Catholic Church. And if he is not a
member of the Catholic Church, then he is not the pope. (Lionel: The same could be said of John
Henry Westin he is not a practicing Catholic. He will not respond to what I
have written here since it will expose him ).
Indeed, it would
be rash to obey such a man who had not proved his title in law.[38]
Therefore, we may conclude:
- Francis is a public
heretic (Lionel: Like John Henry Westin).
- If Francis is morally
culpable for being a public heretic, then it is certain that
he not the pope (Lionel: Westin is not a Catholic ?)
- If Francis is not morally
culpable for being a public heretic, then is it probable that
he is not the pope.
- If it is probable that
he is not the pope, then his claim to the papacy is doubtful
- If his claim to the
papacy is doubtful, then he cannot be regarded as “the proper
head of the visible Church instituted by Christ.” (Lionel: Says
someone who interprets the Creeds irrationally…)
Therefore, as a
result of his public heresy, we ought to hold that Francis is not the
pope. (Lionel. And the Lefebvrists,
cardinals and bishops are not Catholic…?) - Lionel Andrades
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