Wednesday, July 31, 2024
Do you accept Vatican Council II, Lionel?
JUNE 28, 2024
Do you accept Vatican Council II, Lionel?
Do you accept Vatican Council II, Lionel?
Yes but only Vatican Council II (rational) i.e. with LG 8, 14, 15, 16, UR 3, NA 2, and GS 22 etc referring to hypothetical cases always. They refer to invisible people in 1965-2024 and so are not practical exceptions for the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus and the Athanasius Creed. Meanwhile Ad Gentes 7 (all need faith and baptism for salvation) is in harmony with the past ecclesiocentrism of the Catholic Church. So the Council is traditional and exclusivist for me.
I reject Vatican Council II ( irrational) as interpreted by Pope Francis, Cardinal Fernandez and Archbishop Vigano i.e LG 8,14,15,16 etc refer to physically visible examples of salvation in 1965-2024, and so are practical exceptions for the dogma EENS and the past ecclesiocentrism. The Council is a revolution in the Church as the liberal media puts it. So for them the Council is a break with Tradition. For me it is not a rupture with Tradition.
It is the same Council but their premise is (invisible people are visible in the present times) for me they are not visible.
Their inference is that visible cases of LG 16 etc are practical exceptions for the Athanasius Creed, Syllabus of Errors etc. For me this is irrational. There are no such practical exceptions in our human reality.
Since Vatican Council II is a break with Tradition for them they believe they can change the Church's teachings on divorce, communion for the remarried,homosexual unions, rejection of the Roman Missal etc. For me the Council supports the dogma EENS and so there is no change in the ecclesiology of the Catholic Church. We cannot change faith and morals in the name of Vatican Council II, any more.
Do you accept Pope Francis as the pope?
Yes but he is in public mortal sin when he interprets the Creeds etc irrationally. He is not in communion with Jesus and His Mystical Body the Catholic Church. He represents the political Left.
What about Cardinal McCarrick?
I have never commented on him.
With Vatican Council II (rational) the Council supports the dogma EENS. So there is no change in the ecclesiology of the Church. There is no New Theology, New Ecumenism, New Evangelization etc. We return to traditional faith and morals.
So homosexual unions can no more justify in the name of Vatican Council II (rational). Ethically, the Council can only be interpreted rationally.
I follow the Magisterium of the Catholic Church (Vatican Council II, Creeds, Catechisms, Councils, etc, interpreted only rationally). The Magisterium does not change.
Pope Francis, Cardinal Fernandez and Archbishop Vigano are not Magisterial when they interpret Vatican Council II, the Creeds, Councils and Catechisms irrationally. Lionel Andrades
JUNE 27, 2024
Vigano must ask Msgr.Kennedy at the DDF to respond
JUNE 26, 2024
Gerard O’Connell writing in the Jesuit magazine America, has not clarified that Archbishop Carlo Maria Vigano has to interpret Vatican Council II irrationally and not rationally, otherwise he will face charges of schism or be excommunicated.
JUNE 26, 2024
Pope Francis and Cardinal Fernandez are in schism on Vatican Council II, the Catechism of the Catholic Church and other Magisterial Documents, when they use the irrational and not rational premise, to produce a break with Tradition (EENS etc). There is no denial from Bishop Athanasius Schneider. He agrees with me.
JUNE 26, 2024
THERE WILL BE NO DENIAL FROM THE VICAR GENERAL AND AUXILIARY BISHOPS OF ROME. POPE FRANCIS AND CARDINAL FERNANDEZ INTERPRET VATICAN COUNCIL II IRRATIONALLY AND DISHONESTLY.
JUNE 26, 2024
POPE FRANCIS AND CARDINAL FERNANDEZ CAN INTERPRET VATICAN COUNCIL II RATIONALLY AND THEN ASK ARCHBISHOP CARLO MARIA VIGANO TO DO THE SAME. THEN THEY WILL ALL BE MAGISTERIAL ON THE COUNCIL.
JUNE 26, 2024
POPE FRANCIS HAS SIMPLY TO ANNOUNCE THAT THERE ARE NO LITERALLY KNOWN CASES OF THE BAPTISM OF DESIRE ETC AND HE BECOMES MAGISTERIAL ON VATICAN COUNCIL
JUNE 26, 2024
THERE IS NO DENIAL FROM THE U.S STATE DEPARTMENT. PRESIDENT BIDEN IS UNETHICAL IN HIS INTERPRETATION OF VATICAN COUNCIL II. IT IS THE SAME DISHONEST INTERPRETATION OF POPE FRANCIS AND CARDINAL FERNANDEZ AND NOW THEY ARE THRUSTING DOWN THE THROAT OF ARCHBISHOP MARIA VIGANO.
JUNE 26, 2024
THE RECTOR OF THE PONTIFICAL NORTH AMERICAN COLLEGE(SEMINARY) ROME AGREES THAT THE INTERPRETATION OF VATICAN COUNCIL II BY PRESIDENT BIDEN IS IRRATIONAL AND UNETHICAL. HOWEVER THIS IS THE SAME HERETICAL AND SCHISMATIC INTERPRETATION OF THE COUNCIL BY POPE FRANCIS AND CARDINAL FERNANDEZ
JUNE 26, 2024
THE ITALIAN BISHOPS CONFERENCE (CEI) AND THE UNITED STATES CONFERENCE OF BISHOPS (USCCB) DID NOT COME TO THE SUPPORT OF PRESIDENT JOSEPH BIDEN A CATHOLIC, WHO INTERPRETS VATICAN COUNCIL II IRRATIONALLY AND NOT RATIONALLY AND CONTINUES WITH THE DISHONESTY. THEY ARE NOT EXPECTED TO DENY THAT POPE FRANCIS, CARDINAL FERNANDEZ AND THE U.S CARDINALS ARE ALSO INTERPRETING THE COUNCIL HERETICALLY AND SCHISMATICALLY.
JUNE 26, 2024
EVEN JOHN ALLEN AT CRUX, EDWARD PENTIN AT THE NATIONAL CATHOLIC REGISTER, NICOLE WINFIELD AT THE ASSOCIATED PRESS AND HEIDI SCHLUMPF AND JOSHUA MCELWEE AT THE NATIONAL CATHOLIC REPORTER AGREE THAT POPE FRANCIS AND CARDINAL FERNANDEZ INTERPRET THE COUNCIL IRRATIONALLY AND UNETHICALLY LIKE PRESIDENT BIDEN : THE RESULT IS HERESY ON THE CREEDS AND SCHISM WITH THE MAGISTERIUM OVER THE CENTURIES.CNA AND CNS HAVE NO DENIAL.
HTTPS://EUCHARISTANDMISSION.BLOGSPOT.COM/2024/06/EVEN-JOHN-ALLEN-AT-CRUX-EDWARD-PENTIN.HTML
JUNE 26, 2024
MY INTERPRETATION OF THE NICENE, APOSTLES AND ATHANASIUS CREED IS DIFFERENT FROM THAT OF CARDINAL FERNANDEZ
JUNE 26, 2024
WE DON'T HAVE UNITY ON THE CREEDS BECAUSE OF HERESY AND SCHISM WHICH IS OFFICIAL AND PART OF THE MAIN LINE CATHOLIC CHURCH
MAY 29, 2024
THIS WAS A DISCOVERY. IT MEANT VATICAN COUNCIL II WAS NOT A RUPTURE WITH TRADITION.
SOME 15 YEARS BACK I DISCOVERED THAT LUMEN GENTIUM 16 (BEING SAVED IN INVINCIBILE IGNORANCE) ETC WERE ALWAYS HYPOTHETICAL. SO HOW COULD THEY BE EXCEPTIONS FOR FEENEYITE EXTRA ECCLESIAM NULLA SALUS? THIS WAS A DISCOVERY. IT MEANT VATICAN COUNCIL II WAS NOT A RUPTURE WITH TRADITION.
-Lionel Andrades
Who are you, Lionel?
Who
are you, Lionel?
I
am the inventor of the terms Cushingism and Feeneyism with reference to Vatican
Council II. It is a philosophical and theological tool, with which we can
review the writings of the popes over the centuries and of course Vatican
Council II, rational and irrational and the Catechism of the Catholic Church,
rational and irrational.
When
what is invisible is confused as being visible, I call it Cushingism. When what
is invisible is seen as just being visible, I call it Feeneyism. LG
8,14,15,16,UR 3,NA 2, GS 22 etc in Vatican Council II can be interpreted with
rational Feeneyism or irrational Cushingism and so the conclusion will be
traditional with Feeneyism and non traditional with Cushingism.
- Lionel Andrades
WE HAVE TWO INTERPRETATIONS OF VATICAN COUNCIL II : YOURS AND MINE
Lionel Andrades
Catholic lay man in Rome. Writer on the discovery of the two interpretations of Vatican Council II, one is rational and the other is irrational, one is interpreted with the false premise and the other without it. One is Magisterial and the other, the common one, is non Magisterial.How can the Holy Spirit make an objective mistake ? So it is human error and not the Magisterium.
Vatican Council II is dogmatic and not only pastoral.
It is the same for the Creeds and Catechisms. There can be two interpretations.Catholics must choose the rational option.
Why should Catholics choose an irrational version which is heretical, nontraditional and schismatic, when a rational option is there which is traditional?
Blog: Eucharist and Mission (eucharistandmission)
E-mail: lionelandrades10@gmail.com
Twitter : @LionelAndrades1
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The Catholic Church returns to Tradition,Rome comes back to the Faith.
I am a Catholic. So I affirm the teachings of the Catholic Church according to Vatican Council II and the Catechism of the Catholic Church which I interpret rationally unlike the pope and the Dicastery for the Doctrine of the Faith (DDF), Vatican. They are irrational and so nontraditional.
For me Mohammad is in Hell and is lost forever since he died without ‘faith and baptism (Ad Gentes 7, Vatican Council II). The norm for salvation is the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (Council of Florence 1442 etc) and the Catechism of the Catholic Church (845, 846, 1257). The norm for salvation is not the baptism of desire and being saved in invincible ignorance (CCC 847-848).
There are no exceptions in Vatican Council II for the
dogma EENS, AG 7 and CCC 845-846.So when the President of the Conference of Catholic Bishops (CEI), Italy and Vicar General and Auxilary Bishops interpret Vatican Council II rationally, like me, they reach the same conclusion.
Other
religions are not paths to salvation (Catechism of Pope Pius X, 24Q, 27Q, Catechism of the Catholic Church (845, 846, 1257).
So
all need to accept Jesus in the Catholic Church (AG 7, CCC 845,846 etc) to
avoid the fires of Hell (Mark 9:43,Isaiah 33:14).
In
Heaven there are only Catholics (AG 7, CCC 845,846). Catholics are ‘the new
people of God’(Nostra Aetate 4), the new elect, the new Chosen People, since
they follow Jesus Christ the Messiah
promised by the Jewish prophets - Jesus, the king of the Jews.
Other religions have good things but they also have ‘errors, deficiencies and superstition ‘(Dominus Iesus).The fullness of truth is there only in the Catholic Church, Jesus ' Mystical Body . Since LG 8, 14, 15, 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc in Vatican Council II refer to hypothetical cases only they are not practical exceptions for the dogma EENS and the Athanasius Creed in 2024.So when Cardinal Raymond Burke and Cardinal Manuel Victor Fernandez interpret Vatican Council II, rationally, they affirm Feeneyite extra ecclesiam nulla salus, like me.
The Holy Spirit can choose to act outside the visible boundaries of the Church but salvation is restricted to only the Catholic Church.In Heaven there are only Catholics who are there with faith and baptism and without mortal sin on their soul.
You
are either a Catholic or damned- is the post and pre Conciliar teaching. This
is interpreting Vatican Council II rationally and not irrationally.
The
popes, cardinals and bishops have a moral obligation to interpret Vatican
Council II only rationally and then they will reach the same conclusion as me
on Mohammad, Islamism and other religions.
With
Vatican Council II rational, the Catholic Church returns to harmony and unity
on doctrine and theology and we can see an end to divisive liberalism. At the
Conclave to elect a pope, morally, every cardinal must interpret Vatican
Council II, only rationally and so the Catholic Church returns to Tradition, 'Rome comes back to the Faith'. -Lionel Andrades
JULY 30, 2024
The Catholic Church returns to unity in doctrine and theology
We now have unity in faith, doctrine and theology. The liberal-traditionalist division has ended with Vatican Council II interpreted only rationally. It was Vatican Council II (irrational) which was producing ‘the development of doctrine’ and ‘the reforms’.
The Council, no more has exceptions for the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS), which is supported by Ad Gentes 7, Vatican Council II.
Vatican Council II supports the Athanasius Creed and there is a continuity with the pre-1949 popes and Magisterium. Those who continue to interpret the Council irrationally are not Magisterial.
Vatican Council II and the Catechism of the Catholic Church interpreted rationally indicates that Mohammad is in Hell and Jews and other non Catholics are oriented to the Catholic Church to avoid the fires of Hell (CDF, Notification, Fr. Jacques Dupuis sj, 2001).This is the official teaching of the Catholic Church according to Magisterial Documents (Creeds, Councils, Catechisms etc) interpreted only rationally.
The traditionalist and liberal cardinals now have no choice but to accept Vatican Council II. However this is a reference to only Vatican Council II (rational).
Cardinal Raymond Burke, Archbishop Carlo Maria Vigano and Cardinal Victor Manuel Fernandez are united on Vatican Council II. For all of them, the Council says, Mohammad is lost forever and so are the Jewish Left rabbis, the Zionists who are outside the Catholic Church, Jesus’ Mystical Body.
Vatican Council II (rational) has taken the Church’s salvation-theology back to that of St. Ignatius of Loyola, the founder of the Jesuits, whose feast we celebrate tomorrow.
We are back to the ecclesiology of St. Alfonso Liguori and the Redemptorists whose feast day follows that of the great Jesuit missionary of the Middle Ages.
NEW INFORMATION FOR THE SCHISM TRIAL
This is all new information. So Pope Francis and Cardinal Fernandez must review the excommunication of Archbishop Vigano since Vatican Council II (rational-Feeneyite) supports Archbishop Vigano and Tradition and not Cardinal Fernandez and liberalism.
So when Card. Fernandez continues to reject the Athanasius Creed and the dogma EENS in the name of Vatican Council II (irrational), schism-charges should be filed against him.
Fernandez must acknowledge that ‘the great religions’ are not paths to Heaven and only the Catholic Church has ‘the fullness of truth’.
Pope Francis must inform the Chief Rabbinate of Israel, the Grand Mufti in Egypt that outside the Catholic Church there is no salvation.This is the non-schismatic teaching now, of Vatican Council II ( rational-Feeneyite).
Catholics are ‘the new people of God’ (Nostra Aetate 4, Vatican Council II), the new Chosen People. The Catholic Church is the continuation of the Jewish religion, we have the Jewish Messiah promised by the Jewish prophets of the Old Testament of the Bible.The First Commandment refers to true worship, in only the Catholic Church.
We do not support Israel or Hamas in the religious conflict, since the social, religious and political reign belongs only to Jesus Christ, the King of the Jews (Quas Primas).
Poland, Hungary, Slovakia must reject the divisive secular politics of Pope Benedict who was restricted by Vatican Council II (liberal-irrational).
The Catholic Church once again has the same theology of the Austro-Hungarian Catholic Empire and the Papal States in Europe.
This is not just a personal view.I am following the text of the Council.-Lionel Andrades
https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2024/07/the-catholic-church-returns-to-unity-in.html
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