Fr.Stefano Mannelli f.i and the Latin group of the Franciscans of the
Immaculate must use this approach to defend themself if they are accused of schism by Pope
Francis, as it was done for Archbishop Carlo Maria Vigano.
1.
They must point
out to the Novus Ordo Administration of the Franciscans of the Immaculate
approved by Pope Francis, that Vatican Council II is not a rupture with
Tradition, since Lumen Gentium 16 etc refer to hypothetical cases only.So they
accept Vatican Council II (Rational) and Traditiion.The DDF does not do this.
2.
They must
refer to the following people/organisations (CEI,USCCB, Paulist Fathers etc) agreeing that Lumen Gentium 8,14,15,16 etc, refer
to invisible people in the present times.So they are not exceptions for
Tradition. In other words Pope Francis and the DDF have made a mistake.They are
listed here as A. This is evidence of heresy and schism against Pope Francis
and Cardinal Fernandez on social media.B refers to the graphics / icons cited below.
- A
- EVIDENCE OF HERESY AND SCHISM AGAINST POPE FRANCIS AND CARDINAL
FERNANDEZ ON SOCIAL MEDIA WHICH THE DDF HAS NOT DENIED.
JUNE 26, 2024
Even John Allen
at Crux, Edward Pentin at the National Catholic Register, Nicole Winfield at
the Associated Press and Heidi Schlumpf and Joshua McElwee at the National
Catholic Reporter agree that Pope Francis and Cardinal Fernandez interpret
the Council irrationally and unethically like President Biden : the result
is heresy on the Creeds and schism with the Magisterium over the centuries.CNA
and CNS have no denial.
https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2024/06/even-john-allen-at-crux-edward-pentin.html
JUNE 26, 2024
The Italian
Bishops Conference (CEI) and the United States Conference of Bishops (USCCB)
did not come to the support of President Joseph Biden a Catholic, who
interprets Vatican Council II irrationally and not rationally and continues
with the dishonesty. They are not expected to deny that Pope Francis,
Cardinal Fernandez and the U.S cardinals are also interpreting the Council
heretically and schismatically.
https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2024/06/june-16-2024-italian-bishops-conference.html
JUNE
26, 2024
The Rector of
the Pontifical North American College (seminary) Rome agrees that the
interpretation of Vatican Council II by President Biden is irrational and
unethical. However this is the same heretical and schismatic
interpretation of the Council by Pope Francis and Cardinal Fernandez
https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2024/06/15-2024-president-joe-biden-catholic.html
SECULAR JUDICIARY
1. They must inform the secular judiciary that LG 8,14,1,5,16 etc, refer
to hypothetical cases. They are invisible cases for us human beings in 2024.This is
common knowledge. We cannot see the dead
who are now in Heaven. They will be known only to God.
2.The President and Secretary of the Franciscans of the Immaculate new administration and the Dicastery for the Doctrine of the Faith, Vatican, are dishonest when they project LG 8 etc, as exceptions for the Athanasius Creed, the Syllabus of Errors and the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.
In other words there are known non Catholics who are
saved outside the Catholic Church in the present times. They would have to visible
and known cases. Since invisible people cannot be exceptions for the dogma
extra ecclesiam nulla salus, the Athansius Creed etc.
3.If the F.I members of the Latin group do not accept this irrationality there is threat of
schism. This is coercion.
4. The new Franciscans of the Immaculate Administration reject Church Documents ( Creeds, Catechisms etc) which support the past ecclesiocentrism and which are not contradicted by
Vatican Council II (rational). It is the same with the DDF.There is no denial
from them. They are not in communion with the popes and Magisterium over the centuries. Over the centuries the Church interpreted Church Documents rationally i.e without any exceptions.
5. There is the danger of an injustice being done to the F.I as in the case of Archbishop Vigano by only referring to Vatican Council II vaguely, and not making the visible-invisible distinction.
6. The DDF/ F.I must be asked to accept seminarians/ students to the pontifical universities and seminaries who interpret Vatican Council II rationally i.e. LG 8 etc refer to hypothetical cases only.This is not being done.
They must reject candidates who interpret Vatican Council II
irrationally i.e. LG 8 etc refer to personally visible cases in 2024 and so are
practical exceptions for Tradition (EENS etc). This is duplicity.
B.The following graphics/ icons are useful evidence to support the
rational and traditional interpretation of Vatican Council II i.e Vatican Council II ( rational) .
- ICONS /GRAPHICS
When an irrational premise is used I refer to it as Cushingism.
When there is a rational premise, I refer to it as Feeneyism.Lionel Andrades
CUSHINGISM
JULY 7, 2024
Archbishop Carlo Vigano's
canonists and secular lawyers must know that there is a New Discovery, a new
interpretation of Vatican Council II. It is rational. So it exposes the
irrational interpretation of Vatican Council II by the Dicastery for the Doctrine
of the Faith. Here is the evidence with coloured icons.
https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2024/07/carlo-viganos-canonists-and-secular.html
JULY 8, 2024
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DECEMBER 10, 2014
SSPX has only to interpret Vatican Council II with the left hand side column and there is no break with their traditional beliefs on other religions, ecumenism and religious liberty
None of the two, mention the irrational premise when they discuss Vatican Council II. This will also be ignored in the SSPX -Brandmuller discussions
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2014/12/none-of-two-mention-irrational-premise.html
Cardinal Malcolm Ranjit expects the SSPX to reject the Syllabus of Errors as he does and then accept Vatican Council II interpreted with the irrational red columnhttp://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2014/12/cardinal-malcolm-ranjit-expects-sspx
THURSDAY, DECEMBER 11, 2014
Bishop Bernard Fellay and Cardinal Walter Brandmuller have only to interpret Vatican Council II with the left hand side column and the Council is traditional on Islam and other religions
SSPX has only to interpret Vatican Council II with the left hand side column and there is no break with their traditional beliefs on other religions, ecumenism and religious liberty
FRIDAY, SEPTEMBER 11, 2020
I affirm the Creeds, Catechisms, First Commandment, Vatican Council II and other magisterial documents which I interpret without the false premise. The present two popes, do not do the same and neither do the ecclesiastics at the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, Vatican.They are supporting heresy and schism in the Church. This is a mortal sin of faith.
I affirm the Creeds, Catechisms, First Commandment, Vatican Council II and other magisterial documents which I interpret without the false premise. The present two popes, do not do the same and neither do the ecclesiastics at the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, Vatican.They are supporting heresy and schism in the Church. This is a mortal sin of faith. -Lionel Andrades
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The Congress of the Dicastery for the Doctrine of the Faith, Vatican, under Msgr. John Kennedy interprets Vatican Council II, the Creeds, Catechisms and Councils irrationally and so doctrinally are in a schism with the popes over history and they have declared Archbishop Vigano to be in schism. This is an objective error on teh Council , a factual mistake which can be verified in public.
The Congress of the Dicastery for the Doctrine of the Faith, Vatican, under Msgr. John Kennedy interprets Vatican Council II, the Creeds, Catechisms and Councils irrationally and so doctrinally are in a schism with the popes over history and they have declared Archbishop Vigano to be in schism. This is an objective error on the Council , a factual mistake which can be verified in public.
This is an objective error of the DDF in their interpretation of Vatican Council II. They have made a factual mistake, which is verifiable. Unlike in 1965, Catholics now know that Vatican Council II can be interpreted rationally and the conclusion is traditional.
Presently the DDF like Archbishop Vigano and Pope Francis are not interpreting Vatican Council II rationally. Nor will they comment on the many reports on the Internet which say that LG 8, 14,15,16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc refer to hypothtical cases only. So they are not visible exceptions for the Athanasius Creed and the past eccclesiocentrism of the Catholic Church.
Pope Francis has told the National Catechetical Center in Italy that Vatican Council II has to be interpreted as he chooses only and that this will be magisterial and everyone has to accept it. He means the Council has to be interpreted with an irrational premise and inference to produce a non traditional, heretical, schismatic and dishonest conclusion.
-Lionel Andrades