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Vatican Council II interpreted rationally the theology and doctrines of the
Catholic Church return to that of 1905 when Sinn Fein was founded in Ireland. Sorca Clarke TD is the present Education spokesman for Sinn Fein and she should
demand that the Irish Bishops Conference only interpret Vatican Council II
honestly and so in harmony with the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus, the
Athanasius Creed, the Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius IX and the Catechism of
the Catholic Church. Catholic Tradition before 1947 is not contradicted by
Vatican Council II and the Catechism of the Catholic Church.
Norma Foley of the political party Fianna Fail is the Minister for Education at Dublin. She needs to announce that LG 8, 14, 15, 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc in Vatican Council II refer to hypothetical cases only. They refer to invisible people in 2024. This will be enough to take the Catholic Church back to Tradition.
The Archbishop of Dublin interprets LG 8, 14, 15, 16,
UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc as referring to physically visible examples of salvation
outside the Church in 1965-2024. So they become objective exceptions for the
dogma EENS, the Athanasius Creed and the rest of Tradition as it was known to
Sinn Fein in 1905 to 1949.
It means that the Catholic Church is today saying, officially, according to Magisterial Documents ( Creeds, Councils, Catechisms ) interpreted only rationally that the members of the Orange Order and Protestant and Masonic organizations need to enter the Catholic Church for salvation from Hell.- Lionel Andrades
https://www.sinnfein.ie/sorca-clarke
AUGUST 9, 2024
In Ireland at Catholic schools, during religion classes and for Confirmation and First Holy Communion classes children must be taught to interpret Church Documents rationally and honestly : Norma Foley is the Minister for Education in Ireland
Norma Foley is the Minister for Education in Ireland and she must know that there is a controversy on Vatican Council II. There are two versions of the Council. The Ministry of Education uses the irrational and dishonest one. It is the same with the Archdiocese of Dublin. Even the Archbishop-elect from Dublin, John Joseph Kennedy at the Dicastery for the Doctrine of the Faith, Vatican, makes the same objective mistake.
In religious education in Ireland, students must be taught to interpret Vatican Council II only rationally i.e LG 8, 14,15,16,UR 3,NA 2, GS 22 etc refer to hypothetical cases only .They refer to physically invisible cases in Ireland in 2024. We cannot see or meet someone saved in invincible ignorance or the baptism of desire. If any one was saved outside the Church as such, it could only be known to God.
So LG 8,14,15,16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc in Vatican Council II are not practical exceptions for the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus, the Athanasius Creed, the Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius IX ( ecumenism of return to the Catholic Church) and the Catechism of Pope Pius X ( 24Q,27Q-outside the Church there is no salvation). An exception must exist. It must be visible in our human reality. Invisible people cannot be visible exceptions for Catholic Tradition.
So the Catholic Church would be saying today, as it did for centuries, that Mohammad died without 'faith and baptism'( Ad Gentes 7), outside the Church there is no salvation (CCC 845,846) and all need to be members of the Church to avoid Hell ( Council of Florence 1442) and that in Heaven there are only Catholics ( Ag 7, CCC 845,846, CDF, Notification of Fr. Jacques Dupuis sj, 2001 etc).
This is the official position of the Catholic Church in Dublin according to Magisterial Documetns ( Creeds, Councils, Catechisms, only when they are interpreted rationally i.e by not confusing what is invisible as being visble).
The Archbishop of Dublin confused what is invisible as being visble. So LG 8,14,15,16,UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc are objective examples of salvation in 1965-2024, visible cases of non Catholics saved outside the Catholic Church. So not everyone needs to enter the Catholic Church for the Archbishop and Pope Francis. This was the error of the 1949 Letter of the Holy Office to the Archbishop of Boston with reference to Fr. Leonard Feeney (LOHO). The 1949 LOHO issued during the pontificate of Pope Pius XII, confused invisible cases of the baptism of desire as being visible exceptions for Feeneyite extra ecclesiam nulla salus.
The excommunication of Fr. Leonard Feeney was lifted by Pope Paul VI. The priest chose to recite the Athanasius Creed which says all need to enter the Catholc Church Church for eternal salvation from Hell.He died a faithful member of the Catholic Church with a bishop present for his funeral Mass.
The Archdiocese offices in Dublin have been contacted via e-mail but they refuse to comment. It is the same with the Vatican.
The Ministry of Education in Dublin, must ask the Archdiocese to be ethical on Vatican Council II and the Creeds, Councils and Catechisms and to stop interpreting them irrationally.
Also at Catholic schools, during religion classes and for Confirmation and First Holy Communion classes children must be taught to interpret Church Documents rationally and honestly. - Lionel Andrades
https://www.fiannafail.ie/tds/norma-foley
https://www.gov.ie/en/organisation/department-of-education/
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