FEBRUARY 21, 2023
How can Pope Francis and the bishop of Frosinone who both interpret Vatican Council II, by using a False Premise, excommunicate a Catholic community, any community, on the issue of doctrine?
How can Pope Francis and the bishop of Frosinone excommunicate, any Catholic community, on the issue of doctrine? They both are choosing a Fake Premise to change traditional Catholic doctrine. This is a mortal sin of faith. They need to end the scandal.
Anyone who interprets Vatican Council II irrationally is changing the Creeds. Since the False Premise and Inference, creates new doctrins.When they are used in the interpretation of the baptism of desire and being saved in invincible ignorance, there is a new doctrine on salvation. The False Premise creates alleged objective exceptions for the Nicene Creed’s, ‘ I believe in one baptism for the forgiveness of sins’.
With the False Premise the Nicene Creed is changed to, “ I believe in three or more known and visible baptisms, people seen saved without faith and the baptism of water and instead are saved with the baptism of desire, invincible ignorance etc”. One visible baptism, the baptism of water, is changed into three or more known baptisms.This is a new doctrine.
So officially there are exceptions for the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS).It is now : outside the Catholic Church there is known salvation. This is a new doctrine. So the liberals and Masons can have a New Ecumenism, New Ecclesiology etc. The Church no more teaches that outside the Church there is no salvation. The Church now is Christocentric and no more ecclesiocentric. Everyone does not need to be a member of the Church for salvation, as it was taught by the missionaries in the 16th century.This is new doctrine.
This big change comes only when LG 8, !4, and 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc are confused as visible non Catholics saved outside the Catholic Church in the present times (1965-2023). Then there are exceptions for EENS.
But there is no change in doctrine today, if LG 8 etc are simply seen as invisible cases. They are not practical exceptions for the dogma EENS and Tradition. So the Church is still Christocentric and also Ecclesiocentric. Even today (2023) everyone needs to be a member of the Catholic Church with faith and baptism ( Ad Gentes 7, Lumen Gentium 14, CCC 846 etc) to avoid Hell and go to Heaven. There is no change in doctrine.
There is no change in doctrine, I repeat, when LG 8 etc are seen as being only hypothetical.
This is a discovery.
With one simple step the Catholic Church today returns to the old doctrines.
So when Pope Francis and the bishop of Frosinone choose to interpret Vatican Council II with the Fake Premise it is a mortal sin of faith. This is all public.
The meaning of the Creeds cannot be changed.
On this point there is no denial from the Vatican and the bishop of Frosinone in his interview with journalists, including David Murgia.
According to Canon Law the bishop of Frosinone is expected to be a Catholic and to affirm Catholic teachings in public.
He is expected to affirm the Nicene Creed in its original understanding. He is not allowed to change its meaning with a Fake Premise (invisible people are visible in 2023), for political reasons. It is the same with the dogma EENS and the Athanasius Creed. The bishop and the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith (CDF) must affirm them.
They don’t.
The bishop of Frosinone and the CDF choose the Fake Premise.
The Fake Premise creates new doctrines. This is the stuff of excommunication.
Pope Francis has not lifted the excommunication of the Gallinero community.The CDF has not announced what are the specific doctrinal charges against the La Nuova Gerusalemme (LNG), and what must they do to have the excommunication lifted.The CDF cannot announce it. Since the CDF chooses the False Premise and now it is public.The CDF's doctrines are political-Left.
Meanwhile the Catholic Charismatic Renewal office (CHARIS), which has been officially approved by Pope Francis, allows the LNG Charismatic groups to function in the Catholic churches in Italy.
- Lionel Andrades
https://www.lanuovagerusalemme.it/
Vatican needs to apologise for the excommunication of Fr. Leonard Feeney and Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre
Is not implying that the dead now in Heaven are explicit exceptions on earth to Tradition, 'defective' for Una Voce ?
International Una Voce Federation: threatened SSPX excommunications may be illegal
Background
“The Catholic faithful cannot participate at Mass, neither request and/or receive sacraments from or in the Society. Acting otherwise would mean to break communion with the Catholic Church.
Therefore, any Catholic faithful who requests and receives sacraments in the Society of Saint Pius X, will place himself de facto in the condition of no longer being in communion with the Catholic Church. A readmission to the Catholic Church must be preceded by an adequate personal path of reconciliation, according to the ecclesiastical discipline established by the Bishop.”
“It is not licit for the Catholic faithful to take part in the celebration of Mass in these conditions, neither to request nor to receive sacraments from the priests of the aforementioned "Society of Saint Pius X", including in private places turned into places of worship, without excluding, in case of obstinacy, also the ferendae sententiae penalties that may apply, according to the ecclesial spirit and that of protection of the faithful.
In the case of the rupture of ecclesiastical communion by the above-mentioned founded motives, in order to be later readmitted to the Catholic Church, a personal path of reconciliation (and eventually of removal of the canonical censure) will be required, according to the discipline advised by the Holy See and the [diocese's] own, established by the diocesan bishop.”
Canonical brief
a. In 1991 Bishop Joseph Ferrario of Honolulu declared six lay Catholics excommunicated on grounds of schism for having procured the services of an SSPX bishop to administer confirmation. These appealed to the Holy See which, through Cardinal Ratzinger as Prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, declared the decree invalid because their action, though considered blameworthy, did not constitute schism.
b. On 5 September 2005, the Holy See, through the Pontifical Commission Ecclesia Dei, affirmed that “the faithful who attend the masses of the aforesaid Fraternity are not excommunicate, and the priests who celebrate them are not, either—the latter are, in fact, suspended.” (Protocol n.55/2005, signed by the then Secretary of the Pontifical Commission Ecclesia Dei, Mgr Camille Perl).
c. On 27 September 2002, quoted and reaffirmed on 18 January 2003, the Holy See, through the Pontifical Commission Ecclesia Dei, stated that “In the strict sense you may fulfil your Sunday obligation by attending a mass celebrated by a priest of the Society of St. Pius X.” (Letters signed by Mgr Camille Perl).
a. It is accordingly not correct that excommunication is thereby incurred.
b. In any event, those under the age of sixteen cannot incur a penalty (canon 1323.1); this would apply to those under this age who received baptism or confirmation.Even when basing a canonical argument on the assumption that the SSPX has no canonical status in the Church and that its priests are suspended, following ordination without dimissorial letters, it does not follow that to seek the sacraments at their hands is an illegal act on the part of the lay faithful.
Conclusion
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