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With the L.A interpretation of Vatican Council II , the popes, cardinals and bishops are shown as being not rational and neither ethical and Magisterial.The popes from Pius XII were not Magisterial on the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS) - they were Cushingite and not Feeneyite.We must now interpret the Creeds and Catechisms with Feeneyism ( invisible people are invisible in 2023) and not Cushingism ( invisible people are visible in the present times)

 

NOVEMBER 22, 2023

With the Lionel Andrades interpretation of Vatican Council II , the popes, cardinals and bishops are shown as being not rational and neither ethical and Magisterial.The popes from Pius XII were not Magisterial on the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS) - they were Cushingite and not Feeneyite.We must now interpret the Creeds and Catechisms with Feeneyism ( invisible people are invisible in 2023) and not Cushingism ( invisible people are visible in the present times)

 





With the Lionel Andrades interpretation of Vatican Council II , the popes, cardinals and bishops are shown as being not rational and neither ethical- it cannot be Magisterial.The popes from Pius XII were not Magisterial on the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS) - they were Cushingite and not Feeneyite.We must now interpret the Creeds and Catechisms  with Feeneyism ( invisible people are invisible in 2023) and not Cushingism ( invisible people are visible in the present times).

We must interpret Vatican Council II with Feeneyism ( LG 16 refers to an invisible case in 2023) and not Cushingism ( LG 8, 14, 15. 16 etc) refer to visible non Christians saved outside the Church in 2023).

The Vatican is not commenting on this issue since they have always been Cushingite since 1949.

The Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith ( Holy Office) in the 1949, Letter to the Archbishop of Boston, Cardinal Cushing, relative to Fr. Leonard Feeney,confused invisible cases of the baptism of desire and being saved in invincible ignorance,  as being visible exceptions for traditional EENS. So the dogma EENS and the Catechisms etc were made obsolete in 1949.The Council Fathers in 1965 repeated the mistake. They enlarged  the category of exceptions to LG 8, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc.

Pope Francis, the cardinals and bishops cannot continue to interpret  LG 8,. LG 14, LG 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc, with Cushingism instead of Feeneyism. They cannot expect all Catholics to be irrational and dishonest. The people must see LG 8, LG 14, LG 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22, etc, as being hypothetical only.

                             The Roman Missal is Feeneyite and the New Missal is Cushingite

NEW MISSAL INCOMPLETE

Catholics must also note that the New Missal of Pope Paul VI is incomplete, since it is based upon Vatican Council II, Cushingite. It does not affirm Feeneyite EENS.

ANGELUS PRESS MUST ISSUE A CORRECTION


The Angelus Press of the Society of St. Pius X (SSPX) must clarify that the books they have published on Vatican Council II, or related to Vatican Council II, including those of Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre, has an error.The Council was interpreted irrationally and not rationally. The SSPX priests in Rome are refusing to speak to me on this issue. 

SSPX CATECHESIS HAS ERROR

They have Catechesis for Adults in Rome with the Catechism of Pope Pius X which they interpret irrationally. Invincible ignorance ( 29Q) is projected as an exception  for 29Q ( outside the Church no salvation).They must acknowledge that they made a mistake.

The SSPX cannot say that they are following the popes . The popes accepted Vatican Council II  with the error and they rejected the Council, but all the same, interpreted the Council, with the error.



BISHOP MARK PIVARUNAS' MISTAKE ON THE CMRI WEBSITE

Also Bishop Mark Pivarunas must clarify that the list of baptism of desire cases mentioned on the CMRI website, all refer to hypothetical cases only. They are invisible cases in 2023.

Also sedevacantist Bishop Donald Sanborn must admit that his community's interpretation of EENS and Vatican Council II is irrational and not honest.


MHFM FOLLOWS POPE JOHN PAUL II AND 'THE VATICAN II SECT'

Peter and Michael Dimond at the Most Holy Family Monastery, NY, like their founder Nathan Joseph, interpret Vatican Council II like 'the Vatican Council II sect' and the popes John Paul II, Benedict XVI and Francis. The MHFM interprets Vatican Council II irrationally like the United States Conferences of Bishops (USCCB).

                                                                  https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/search?q=Ferrara+bishop
In Italy, the Archbishop of Palermo, who excommunicated Fr. Alessandro M. Minutella is interpreting Vatican Council II irrationally and deceptively. It is the same with Bishop Stephen Brady and Anglican Ordinariate who excommunicated Fr. Vaughn Treco.

The Archbishop of Ferarra, Italy Giancarlo Peregro and the visiting Auxiliary Bishop of Rome, Daniele Libanori s.j, transferred traditionalist young priests.Libanori still interprets the Council irrationally like the Italian Bishops Conference.  -Lionel Andrades


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NOVEMBER 21, 2023 

What is the Lionel Andrades interpretation of Vatican Council II ?

It is a different way of looking at LG 8,14,15,16,UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc in Vatican Council II.

Why is it different?

It sees LG 8,14, 15,16 etc as being only hypothetical cases. They refer to invisible people in 1965-2023. So they are not objective examples of salvation in the present times . They are not exceptions for the past ecclesiocentrism of the Church. They do not contradict the Council of Florence (1442) and the Fourth Lateran Council (1215) on the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.

We cannot see any one saved in imperfect communion with the Church (UR 3) or where the Catholic Church subsists outside its visible boundaries (LG 8). If any one was saved outside the Church it could only be known to God.

So what ? Why is this important ?

Presently the popes, cardinals and bishops interpret Vatican Council II as a break with Tradition. LG 8, 14,. 15, 16 etc are exceptions for the dogma EENS. The Athanasius Creed and the Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius IX are made obsolete by them. So they imply that LG 8,14, 15,16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 are objective examples of salvation in the present times. They are not invisible cases for them. This is irrational. The invisible- people- are- visible premise is unethical. But this is the common way to create the hermeneutic of rupture with Tradition.



So what are the implications of the L.A interpretation?

We read the text of Vatican Council II differently. We also read the text of other Church Documents (Catechism of the Catholic Church, Dominus Iesus, Catechism of Pope Pius X, etc) differently. If the hypothetical cases in Vatican Council II ( baptism of desire-LG 14 etc) are marked in red and the orthodox passages which support the past ecclesiology are marked in blue, then the red passages do not contradict the blue. Presently for most people , the red is an exception for the blue.

The Church has returned to the past faith and morals based upon exclusive salvation in only the Church.This was Apostolic. It is a return to the Church Fathers and to the missionaries of the 16th century.

Catholics can once again proclaim the Social Reign of Christ the King in all politics, since Vatican Council II is in harmony with Tradition.It is important for Governments and societies to be Catholic since in Heaven there are only Catholics ( AG 7, LG 16, CCC 845,846 etc).

We have returned to the past Traditional Mission based upon exclusive salvation in the Catholic Church and the necessity for all to be members of the Catholic Church; to believe in Jesus in the Catholic Church only, to avoid Hell ( for salvation).

There can now only be the old ecumenism of return and inter-religious dialogue will be missionary. The theological foundation will now be a Vatican Council II which is orthodox and Magisterial.

It means the present interpretation of the popes,

cardinals and bishops, is irrational and so non 

Magisterial.



So why did the Council Fathers in 1965 not know 

all this ? 

They  repeated the objective mistake made

in the 1949 Letter of the Holy Office. It confused invisible cases of the baptism of desire and being saved in invincible ignorance as being  visible exceptions for Feeneyite extra ecclesiam nulla salus, or, EENS according to the Church Councils. The Church Councils (1215 etc) did not mention any exceptions.

-Lionel Andrades


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