A traditionalist group of Catholic bishops and priests
that has been separated from the wider Church
for decades appears to have abandoned efforts
to reunite with Rome, releasing
a statement Wednesday that claims Pope Francis is
encouraging the spreading of errors in Church teaching.
The Society of St. Pius X, founded by the late French
Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre in 1970 mainly in opposition
to the reforms of the Second Vatican Council, says
now it “does not primarily seek a canonical recognition”
from the Vatican for its continuing activities.
Lionel:
There are 'reforms of the Second
Vatican Council' only if Vatican
Council II is interpreted with
Vatican Council' only if Vatican
Council II is interpreted with
Cushingism instead of Feneeyism
as a theology.
as a theology.
If the Society interprets Vatican
Council II(Feeneyite) they have
canonical status. Since they
are accepting Vatican Council II
( Feeneyite) and they are
intepreting ecumenism,
religious liberty and inter-religious
dialogue with the old
ecclesiology based on
extra ecclesiam nulla salus
Council II(Feeneyite) they have
canonical status. Since they
are accepting Vatican Council II
( Feeneyite) and they are
intepreting ecumenism,
religious liberty and inter-religious
dialogue with the old
ecclesiology based on
extra ecclesiam nulla salus
(Feeneyite).Canonical status would
be there right.Since they are accepting
Vatican Council II without heresy.
be there right.Since they are accepting
Vatican Council II without heresy.
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The society also says there is a “great
and painful confusion that currently
reigns in the Church” that “requires
the denunciation of errors that have
made their way into it and are
unfortunately encouraged
by a large number of pastors, including
the Pope himself.”
Lionel:Yes they
Lionel:Yes they
are all interpreting Vatican Council II,
the Catechism of the Catholic
Church, the Nicene Creed and
the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla
salus (EENS) with Cushingism
instead of traditional Feeneyism.
________________________________
The statement, released on the society’s
website, seems to eliminate chances that
the group might reunite with Rome.
Popes have tried to repair relations over
four decades.
Lionel:
There can be untiy if the traditionalists
announce that they prefer to interpret all
magisterial documents with the Feeneyite
theology, since it is rational and traditional.
They could ask the Vatican Curia to do the
same.This option is still there.
_________________________
Pope Benedict XVI made the most effort
to reunite with the group, lifting the
excommunications of four of their
bishops in 2009. Those efforts ultimately
failed when Bishop Bernard Fellay,
their current superior general, rejected
a doctrinal statement drafted by the
Vatican for the group to sign.
Lionel:
Pope Benedict XVI wanted the
SSPX to interpret Vatican Council II
and the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla
salus,with innovative Cushingism.
In this way Vatican Council is
a break with Tradition on ecumenism,
salvation, other religions,religious
liberty etc.It would be heresy for the
SSPX to accept Vatican Council II
interpreted with Cushnigism.
______________________
Wednesday’s statement is made in
Fellay’s name and comes as the global
Catholic Church is celebrating the
feast of Sts. Peter and Paul, the
founders of the Church in Rome.
Lionel:
They both affirmed outside the
Church there is no salvation.
_________________________
Fellay says he is making the
statement following a June 25-28
meeting of the society’s superiors
and gives four numbered points
based on the premise that the
purpose of the group “is chiefly
the formation of priests, the
essential condition
for the renewal of the Church
and for the restoration
of society.”
Lionel:
However Bishop Fellay is not
aware that the new priests are being
formed with the new theology, the
Cushingite theology. Cushingism is based
upon a philosphical error, an empirical
error. Then upon this irrational the new
Cushingite theology was created.It is the
bases of the Anonymous Christian
theology of Fr. Karl Rahner S.J.
upon a philosphical error, an empirical
error. Then upon this irrational the new
Cushingite theology was created.It is the
bases of the Anonymous Christian
theology of Fr. Karl Rahner S.J.
________________________
The statement ends with a paragraph
that begins: “The Society of Saint Pius
X prays and does penance
for the Pope, that he might have
the strength to proclaim Catholic
faith and morals in their entirety.”
Lionel:
In faith and morals the pope
rejects traditional teaching with
philosphical subjectivity.
He assumes there are subjectively
known cases of the baptism of desire
etc which are exceptions to the dogma
EENS. In Amoris Laetitia he also
assumed that there were subjectively
known cases, who were practical
exceptions,to being in mortal sin.
The SSPX rejects subjectivism in moral
theology but accepts it in salvation theology,
since Archbishop Lefebvre did the same.
___________________________
The society’s statement comes less than
three months after Francis met with Fellay
for the first time at the Vatican in April.
The Pope had earlier indicated a move
toward unity between the wider Church and
the traditionalist society with the opening
of the ongoing Jubilee year of mercy last fall.
Lionel:
He still has not removed restrictions on
Fr.Stefano Manelli F.I and the Franciscans
of the Immaculate priests who want to
offer the Traditional Latin Mass.
He has closed down the F.I seminary.
of the Immaculate priests who want to
offer the Traditional Latin Mass.
He has closed down the F.I seminary.
_________________________
In a September letter to the
Pontifical Council for the Promotion
of the New Evangelization,
Pontifical Council for the Promotion
of the New Evangelization,
which is organizing the holy year on his behalf,
he explained that members of the society would
be granted faculties during the year to offer
absolution of sins “validly and licitly” to those
who approach them for confession.
In a March interview posted on the society’s website
, Fellay had before said he thought Francis may
consider his group as existing on the “periphery”
and thus needing to be accompanied back to the
Church.
Lionel:
It is believed that the Jewish Left derailed
the unification agreement since they want
the SSPX to interpret Vatican Council II
with Cushingism and to accept the
irrational conclusion of this irrational
theology.
theology.
The SSPX uses irrational Cushingism,
like Pope Francis, but does not accept
the conclusion. Pope Francis accepts this
Vatican Council II(Cushingite) which is a
Vatican Council II(Cushingite) which is a
break with Tradition.
They both do not interpret Vatican
Council II with Feeneyism.
They both do not interpret Vatican
Council II with Feeneyism.
__________________________
Outside of the faculties granted
during the Jubilee year, members
of the traditionalist society are
considered not to be in full
communion with Rome and, in
normal circumstances, its priests
and bishops cannot exercise Roman
Catholic ministry.
Lionel:
They are not in full communion
since they will not accept a heretical
interpretation of Vatican Council II,
approved by the Jewish Left, for the
Catholic Church.
[Joshua J. McElwee is Vatican Correspondent
for the National Catholic Reporter.]
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Traditionalist St. Pius X society
abandons unification, claims
Francis spreading errors
http://www.lastampa.it/2016/06/29/vaticaninsider/eng/the-vatican/traditionalist
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unification-claims-francis-spreading-errors
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lhttps://www.ncronline.org/news/vatican/traditionalist-st-pius-x-society-abandons-
unification-claims-francis-spreading-errors
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JUNE 6, 2016
FSSP and SSPX priests need to know that there is a mistake in the Letter of the Holy Office and Vatican Council II: there is an irrational premisehttp://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/06/fssp-and-sspx-priests-need-to-know-that.html
False reasoning from the Letter is all
over Vatican Council II: Abp Lefebvre
did not notice it -3
over Vatican Council II: Abp Lefebvre
did not notice it -3
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2015/12/false-reasoning-
from-letter-is-all-over.html
from-letter-is-all-over.html
False reasoning from the Letter is all over Vatican
Council II: Abp Lefebvre did not notice it -2http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2015/12/the-false-reasoning-from-letter-is-all_30.html
False reasoning from the Letter is all over Vatican
Council II: Abp Lefebvre did not notice it -1http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2015/12/the-false-reasoning-from-letter-is-all.html
The Letter made a mistake. Archbishop
Lefebvre did not notice it
Lefebvre did not notice it
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2015/12/the-letter-made-mistakearchbishop.html
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